To Dr. TOPHAM.

To Dr. TOPHAM.SIR,Though theReplyto theDeanofYorkis not declared, in theTitle-Page, or elsewhere, to be wrote by you,—Yet I take that Point for granted; and therefore beg Leave, in this public Manner, to write to you in Behalf of myself; with Intent to set you right in two Points where I stand concerned in this Affair; and which I find you have misapprehended, and consequently (as I hope) misrepresented.TheFirstis, in respect of some Words, made use of in the Instrument, signed by DrHerring, MrBerdmoreand myself.—Namely,to the best of our Remembrance and Belief,which Words you have caught hold of, as implying some Abatement of our Certainty as to the Facts therein attested. Whether it was so with the other two Gentlemen who signed that Attestation with me, it is not for me to say; they are able to answer for themselves, and I desire to do so for myself; and therefore I declare to you, and to all Mankind, That the Words in the first Paragraph,to the best of our Remembrance and Belief, implied no Doubt remaining upon my Mind, nor any Distrust whatever of my Memory, from the Distance of Time;—Nor, in short, was it my Intention to attest the several Facts therein, as Matters of Belief—But as Matters of as much Certainty as a Man was capable of having, or giving Evidence to. In Consequence of this Explanation of myself, I do declare myself ready to attest the same Instrument over again, striking out the Wordsto the best of our Remembrance and Beliefwhich I see, have raised this Exception to it.Whether I was mistaken or no, I leave to better Judges; but I understood those Words were a very common Preamble to Attestations of Things, to which we bore the clearest Evidence;—However, DrTopham, as you have claimed just such another Indulgence yourself, in the Case of begging theDean’s Authority to say, what, as you affirm, you had sufficient Authority to say without, as a modest and Gentleman-like Way of Affirmation;—I wish you had spared either the one or the other of your Remarks upon these two Passages:—Veniam petimus, demusque vicissim.There is another Observation relating to this Instrument, which I perceive has escaped your Notice; which I take the Liberty to point out to you, namely, That the Words,To the best of our Remembrance and Belief, if they imply any Abatement of Certainty, seem only confined to that Paragraph, and to what is immediately attested after them in it:—For in the second Paragraph, wherein the main Points are minutely attested, and upon which the whole Dispute, and main Charge against theDean, turns, it is introduced thus:“We do particularly remember, That as soon as Dinner was over, &c.”In the second Place you affirm, “That it is not said that Mr.Sternecould affirm he had heard you charge theDeanwith a Promise, in its own Nature so very extraordinary, as of the Commissaryship of the Dean and Chapter”:—To this I answer, That my true Intent in subscribing that very instrument, and I suppose of others, was to attest thisvery Thing;and I have just now read that Part of the Instrument over; and cannot, for my Life, affirm it either more directly or expresly, than in the Words as they there stand;—therefore please to let me transcribe them.“But being press’d by Mr.Sternewith an undeniable Proof, That he, (Dr.Topham) did propagate the said Story, (viz:of a Promise from the Dean to Dr.Tophamof the Dean and Chapter’s Commissaryship)—Dr.Tophamdid at last acknowledge it; adding, as his Reason or Excuse for so doing, That he apprehended (or Words to that Effect) he had aPromiseunder theDean’s own Hand, of theDean and Chapter’s Commissaryship.”This I have attested, and what Weight the Sanction of an Oath will add to it, I am willing and ready to give.As for Mr.Ricard’s feeble Attestation, brought to shake the Credit of this firm and solemn one, I have nothing to say to it, as it is only an Attestation of Mr.Ricard’s Conjectures upon the Subject.—But this I can say, That I had the Honour to be at the Deanery with the learned Counsel, when Mr.Ricardunderwent thatmost formidableExamination you speak of,—and I solemnly affirm, That he then said, He knew nothing at all about the Matter, one Way or the other; and the Reasons he gave for his utter Ignorance, were, first, That he was then so full of Concern, at the Difference which arose between two Gentlemen, both his Friends, that he did not attend to the Subject Matter of it,—and of which he declared again he knew nothing at all. And secondly, If he had understood it then, the Distance would have put it out of his Head by this Time.He has since scower’d his Memory, I ween; for now he says, That he apprehended the Dispute regarded something in the Dean’s Gift, as he could notnaturallysuppose, &c. ’Tis certain, at the Deanery, he hadnaturallyno Suppositions in his Head about this Affair; so that I with this may not prove one of the After-Thoughts you speak of, and not so much anaturalas anartificialSupposition of my good Friend’s.As for theformidableEnquiry you represent him as undergoing,—let me intreat you to give me Credit in what I say upon it,—namely,—That it was as much the Reverse to every Idea that ever was couch’d under that Word, as Words can represent it to you. As for the learned Counsel and myself, who were in the Room all the Time, I do not remember that we, either of us, spoke ten Words. The Dean was the only one that ask’d Mr.Ricardwhat he remembered about the Affair of the Sessions Dinner; which he did in the most Gentleman-like and candid Manner,—and with an Air of as much Calmness and seeming Indifference, as if he had been questioning him about the News in the lastBrussels Gazette.What Mr.Ricardsaw to terrify him so sadly, I cannot apprehend, unless the Dean’sGothicBook-Case,—which I own has an odd Appearance to a Stranger; so that if he came terrified in his Mind there, and with a Resolution not toplead, he mightnaturally supposeit to be a great Engine brought there on purpose to exercise thePeine fort et dureupon him.—But to be serious; if Mr.Ricardtold you, That this Enquiry wasmost formidable, He was much to blame;—and if you have said it, without his express Information, thenYouare much to blame.This is all, I think, in yourReply, which concerns me to answer:—As for the many coarse and unchristian Insinuations scatter’d throughout yourReply,—as it is my Duty to beg God to forgive you, so I do from my Heart: Believe me, Dr.Topham, they hurt yourself more than the Person they are aimed at; and when thefirst Transportof Rage is a little over, they will grieve you more too.—prima est hæc Ultio.But these I hold to be no answerable Part of a Controversy;—and for the little that remains unanswered in yours,—I believe I could, in another half Hour, set it right in the Eyes of the World: But this is not my Business.—And is it is thought worth the while, which I hope it never will, I know no one more able to do it than the very Reverend and Worthy Gentleman whom you have so unhandsomely insulted upon that Score.As for thesupposed Compilers, whom you have been so wrath and so unmerciful against, I’ll be answerable for it, as they are Creatures of your own Fancy, they will bear you no Malice. However, I think the more positively any Charge is made, let it be against whom it will, the better it should be supported; and therefore I should be sorry, for your own Honour, if you have not some better Grounds for all you have thrown out about them, than the mere Heat of your Imagination or Anger. To tell you truly, your Suppositions on this Head oft put me in Mind ofTrim’s twelve Men inBuckram, which his disordered Fancy represented as laying in Ambush inJohnthe Clerk’s House, and letting drive at him all together. I am,SIR,Your most obedientAnd most humble Servant,LAWRENCE STERNESutton on the Forest,Jan. 20, 1759P.S. I beg Pardon forclappingthis upon theBackof theRomance,—which is done out of no Disrespect to you.—But theVehiclestood ready at the Door,—and as I was to pay the whole Fare, and there was Room enough behind it,—it was the cheapest and readiest Conveyance I could think of.FINIS.

SIR,

Though theReplyto theDeanofYorkis not declared, in theTitle-Page, or elsewhere, to be wrote by you,—Yet I take that Point for granted; and therefore beg Leave, in this public Manner, to write to you in Behalf of myself; with Intent to set you right in two Points where I stand concerned in this Affair; and which I find you have misapprehended, and consequently (as I hope) misrepresented.

TheFirstis, in respect of some Words, made use of in the Instrument, signed by DrHerring, MrBerdmoreand myself.—Namely,to the best of our Remembrance and Belief,which Words you have caught hold of, as implying some Abatement of our Certainty as to the Facts therein attested. Whether it was so with the other two Gentlemen who signed that Attestation with me, it is not for me to say; they are able to answer for themselves, and I desire to do so for myself; and therefore I declare to you, and to all Mankind, That the Words in the first Paragraph,to the best of our Remembrance and Belief, implied no Doubt remaining upon my Mind, nor any Distrust whatever of my Memory, from the Distance of Time;—Nor, in short, was it my Intention to attest the several Facts therein, as Matters of Belief—But as Matters of as much Certainty as a Man was capable of having, or giving Evidence to. In Consequence of this Explanation of myself, I do declare myself ready to attest the same Instrument over again, striking out the Wordsto the best of our Remembrance and Beliefwhich I see, have raised this Exception to it.

Whether I was mistaken or no, I leave to better Judges; but I understood those Words were a very common Preamble to Attestations of Things, to which we bore the clearest Evidence;—However, DrTopham, as you have claimed just such another Indulgence yourself, in the Case of begging theDean’s Authority to say, what, as you affirm, you had sufficient Authority to say without, as a modest and Gentleman-like Way of Affirmation;—I wish you had spared either the one or the other of your Remarks upon these two Passages:—Veniam petimus, demusque vicissim.

There is another Observation relating to this Instrument, which I perceive has escaped your Notice; which I take the Liberty to point out to you, namely, That the Words,To the best of our Remembrance and Belief, if they imply any Abatement of Certainty, seem only confined to that Paragraph, and to what is immediately attested after them in it:—For in the second Paragraph, wherein the main Points are minutely attested, and upon which the whole Dispute, and main Charge against theDean, turns, it is introduced thus:

“We do particularly remember, That as soon as Dinner was over, &c.”

In the second Place you affirm, “That it is not said that Mr.Sternecould affirm he had heard you charge theDeanwith a Promise, in its own Nature so very extraordinary, as of the Commissaryship of the Dean and Chapter”:—To this I answer, That my true Intent in subscribing that very instrument, and I suppose of others, was to attest thisvery Thing;and I have just now read that Part of the Instrument over; and cannot, for my Life, affirm it either more directly or expresly, than in the Words as they there stand;—therefore please to let me transcribe them.

“But being press’d by Mr.Sternewith an undeniable Proof, That he, (Dr.Topham) did propagate the said Story, (viz:of a Promise from the Dean to Dr.Tophamof the Dean and Chapter’s Commissaryship)—Dr.Tophamdid at last acknowledge it; adding, as his Reason or Excuse for so doing, That he apprehended (or Words to that Effect) he had aPromiseunder theDean’s own Hand, of theDean and Chapter’s Commissaryship.”

This I have attested, and what Weight the Sanction of an Oath will add to it, I am willing and ready to give.

As for Mr.Ricard’s feeble Attestation, brought to shake the Credit of this firm and solemn one, I have nothing to say to it, as it is only an Attestation of Mr.Ricard’s Conjectures upon the Subject.—But this I can say, That I had the Honour to be at the Deanery with the learned Counsel, when Mr.Ricardunderwent thatmost formidableExamination you speak of,—and I solemnly affirm, That he then said, He knew nothing at all about the Matter, one Way or the other; and the Reasons he gave for his utter Ignorance, were, first, That he was then so full of Concern, at the Difference which arose between two Gentlemen, both his Friends, that he did not attend to the Subject Matter of it,—and of which he declared again he knew nothing at all. And secondly, If he had understood it then, the Distance would have put it out of his Head by this Time.

He has since scower’d his Memory, I ween; for now he says, That he apprehended the Dispute regarded something in the Dean’s Gift, as he could notnaturallysuppose, &c. ’Tis certain, at the Deanery, he hadnaturallyno Suppositions in his Head about this Affair; so that I with this may not prove one of the After-Thoughts you speak of, and not so much anaturalas anartificialSupposition of my good Friend’s.

As for theformidableEnquiry you represent him as undergoing,—let me intreat you to give me Credit in what I say upon it,—namely,—That it was as much the Reverse to every Idea that ever was couch’d under that Word, as Words can represent it to you. As for the learned Counsel and myself, who were in the Room all the Time, I do not remember that we, either of us, spoke ten Words. The Dean was the only one that ask’d Mr.Ricardwhat he remembered about the Affair of the Sessions Dinner; which he did in the most Gentleman-like and candid Manner,—and with an Air of as much Calmness and seeming Indifference, as if he had been questioning him about the News in the lastBrussels Gazette.

What Mr.Ricardsaw to terrify him so sadly, I cannot apprehend, unless the Dean’sGothicBook-Case,—which I own has an odd Appearance to a Stranger; so that if he came terrified in his Mind there, and with a Resolution not toplead, he mightnaturally supposeit to be a great Engine brought there on purpose to exercise thePeine fort et dureupon him.—But to be serious; if Mr.Ricardtold you, That this Enquiry wasmost formidable, He was much to blame;—and if you have said it, without his express Information, thenYouare much to blame.

This is all, I think, in yourReply, which concerns me to answer:—As for the many coarse and unchristian Insinuations scatter’d throughout yourReply,—as it is my Duty to beg God to forgive you, so I do from my Heart: Believe me, Dr.Topham, they hurt yourself more than the Person they are aimed at; and when thefirst Transportof Rage is a little over, they will grieve you more too.

—prima est hæc Ultio.

But these I hold to be no answerable Part of a Controversy;—and for the little that remains unanswered in yours,—I believe I could, in another half Hour, set it right in the Eyes of the World: But this is not my Business.—And is it is thought worth the while, which I hope it never will, I know no one more able to do it than the very Reverend and Worthy Gentleman whom you have so unhandsomely insulted upon that Score.

As for thesupposed Compilers, whom you have been so wrath and so unmerciful against, I’ll be answerable for it, as they are Creatures of your own Fancy, they will bear you no Malice. However, I think the more positively any Charge is made, let it be against whom it will, the better it should be supported; and therefore I should be sorry, for your own Honour, if you have not some better Grounds for all you have thrown out about them, than the mere Heat of your Imagination or Anger. To tell you truly, your Suppositions on this Head oft put me in Mind ofTrim’s twelve Men inBuckram, which his disordered Fancy represented as laying in Ambush inJohnthe Clerk’s House, and letting drive at him all together. I am,

SIR,Your most obedientAnd most humble Servant,LAWRENCE STERNESutton on the Forest,Jan. 20, 1759

P.S. I beg Pardon forclappingthis upon theBackof theRomance,—which is done out of no Disrespect to you.—But theVehiclestood ready at the Door,—and as I was to pay the whole Fare, and there was Room enough behind it,—it was the cheapest and readiest Conveyance I could think of.


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