Mr. Editor,—I should be glad if any of your readers, Irish or English, could inform me whether we have any other mention of Eva, daughter of Dermot Mac Murrough, last independent king of Leinster, than that she became, in the spring of the year 1170, the wife of Richard Strongbow, Earl of Pembroke, at Waterford.
Any fortunate possessor of O'Donovan's new translation ofThe Annals of the Four Masters, would much oblige me by referring to the dates 1135 and 1169, and also to the period included between them, for any casual notice of the birth of this Eva, or mention of other slight incident with which she is connected, which may there exist.
A. HAPLESS HUNTER
Malvern Wells, Nov. 20, 1849.
Sir,—In the north chancel of St. John's Church, Margate, is a fine brass for John Daundelyon, 1445, with a large dog at his feet; referring to which the Rev. John Lewis, in hisHistory of the Isle of Tenet, 1723 (p. 98.), says:
"The two last bells were cast by the same founder, and the tenor the gift of one of the family of Daundelyon, which has been extinct since 1460. Concerning this bell the inhabitants repeat this traditionary rhyme:
"The two last bells were cast by the same founder, and the tenor the gift of one of the family of Daundelyon, which has been extinct since 1460. Concerning this bell the inhabitants repeat this traditionary rhyme:
"John de Daundelyon, with his great dog,Brought over this bell on a mill-cog."
"John de Daundelyon, with his great dog,Brought over this bell on a mill-cog."
"John de Daundelyon, with his great dog,
Brought over this bell on a mill-cog."
This legend is still given to visitors of this fine old church. Will some of your antiquarian correspondents throw some light on the obscurity?
C.
Sir,—Can you or any of your correspondents tell me of one or two of the best works on the "Genealogy of European Sovereigns?" I know of one,—Anderson'sRoyal Genealogies, London, 1732, folio. But that is not of as late a date as I should wish to see.
Q.X.Z.
At p. 14. of Doctor Simon Forman'sDiary(edited by Mr. Halliwell, 1849), mention is twice made of Forman being engaged as "Scholmaster to theDuke of Ashgrove'sSonnes." Who was the person thus alluded to?
P.C.S.S.
Mr. Editor,—In theGentleman's Magazinefor July, 1842, occurs this:—
"In the parish church of Mendham, Suffolk, is a mural monument bearing an inscription, of which the following is a transcript:"'M.S.V.Cmi Doctissimique D. Gulielmi Godbold Militis ex illustri et perantiquâ Prosapiâ oriundi, Qui post Septennem Peregrinationem animi excolendi gratiâ per Italiam, Græciam, Palæstinam, Arabiam, Persiam, in solo natali in bonarum literarum studiis consenescens morte repentinâ obiit Londini mense Aprilis Ao. D. MDCXIIIC, ætatis LXIX.'"One would presume that so great a traveller would have obtained some celebrity in his day; but I have never met with any notice of Sir William Godbold. I have ascertained that he was the only son of Thomas Godbold, a gentleman of small estate residing at Metfield, in Suffolk, and was nephew to John Godbold, Esq., Serjeant-at-Law, who was appointed Chief Justice of the Isle of Ely in 1638. He appears to have been knighted previously to 1664, and married Elizabeth daughter and heir of Richard Freston, of Mendham (Norfolk), Esq., and relict of Sir Nicholas Bacon, of Gillingham, Bart., whom he survived, and died without issue in 1687. I should consider myself under an obligation to any of your correspondents who could afford me any further account of this learned knight, or refer me to any biographical or other notice of him."
"In the parish church of Mendham, Suffolk, is a mural monument bearing an inscription, of which the following is a transcript:
"'M.S.V.Cmi Doctissimique D. Gulielmi Godbold Militis ex illustri et perantiquâ Prosapiâ oriundi, Qui post Septennem Peregrinationem animi excolendi gratiâ per Italiam, Græciam, Palæstinam, Arabiam, Persiam, in solo natali in bonarum literarum studiis consenescens morte repentinâ obiit Londini mense Aprilis Ao. D. MDCXIIIC, ætatis LXIX.'
"One would presume that so great a traveller would have obtained some celebrity in his day; but I have never met with any notice of Sir William Godbold. I have ascertained that he was the only son of Thomas Godbold, a gentleman of small estate residing at Metfield, in Suffolk, and was nephew to John Godbold, Esq., Serjeant-at-Law, who was appointed Chief Justice of the Isle of Ely in 1638. He appears to have been knighted previously to 1664, and married Elizabeth daughter and heir of Richard Freston, of Mendham (Norfolk), Esq., and relict of Sir Nicholas Bacon, of Gillingham, Bart., whom he survived, and died without issue in 1687. I should consider myself under an obligation to any of your correspondents who could afford me any further account of this learned knight, or refer me to any biographical or other notice of him."
To the writer of that letter the desideratum still remains unsupplied. Your welcome publication appears to offer a channel for repeating the inquiry.
G.A.C.
Many years since I read that some pope or emperor caused the following, or a motto very similar to it, to be engraven in the centre of his table:—
"Si quis amiecum absentem rodere delectat ad hanc mensam accumbere indignus est."
"Si quis amiecum absentem rodere delectat ad hanc mensam accumbere indignus est."
It being a maxim which all should observe in the daily intercourse of life, and in the propriety of which all must concur, I send this to "NOTES AND QUERIES" (the long wished-for medium), in the hopes that some kind "note-maker" can inform me from whence this motto is taken, and to whom ascribed.
J.E.M.
Sir,—If any of your readers can inform me of MSS. of the Works of Kings Alfred the Great, besides those which are found in the larger public collections of MSS., he will confer a favour not only on the Alfred Committee, who propose to publish a complete edition of King Alfred's Works, but also on their Secretary, who is your obedient servant,
J.A. GILES.
Bampton, Oxford, Nov. 23. 1849
I should be much obliged to any of your readers who would favour me with an explanation of the words "Bive" and "Chote." They were thus applied in an inventory taken Kent.
"27 Hen. VIII. Michaelm.Bive lambes at xvid. the pece.Chote lambes at xiid. the pece."
"27 Hen. VIII. Michaelm.Bive lambes at xvid. the pece.Chote lambes at xiid. the pece."
"27 Hen. VIII. Michaelm.
Bive lambes at xvid. the pece.
Chote lambes at xiid. the pece."
T.W.
Horace Walpole alludes to an anecdote of a country gentleman, during the Civil Wars, falling in with one of the armies on the day of some battle (Edgehill or Naseby?) as he wasquietly going out with his hounds. Where did Walpole find this anecdote?
C.
Who first used the phrase—"When bad men conspire, good men must combine"?
C.
S.A.A. inquires whether the authenticity of Richard of Cirencester, the Monk of Westminster, has ever been satisfactorily proved. The prevailing opinion amongst some of the greatest antiquaries has been that the work was a forgery by Dr. Bertram, of Copenhagen, with a view of testing the antiquarian knowledge of the famous Dr. Stukeley; of this opinion was the learned and acute Dr. Whittaker and Mr. Conybeare. It is also further worthy of mention that some years since, when the late Earl Spencer was in Copenhagen, he searched in vain for the original manuscript, which no one there could tell him had ever existed, and very many doubt if it ever existed at all.
When and where was it that a man was apprehended for selling brooms without a hawker's licence, and defended himself by showing that they were the agricultural produce of Lord Erskine's property, and that he was Lord E.'s servant?
GRIFFIN.
When did John Bell cease to practise in the Court of Chancery, and when did he give up practice altogether, and when was the conversation with Lord Eldon on that subject supposed to have take place?
GRIFFIN
Mr. Editor—Stow, in hisSurvey of London, with reference to Billingsgate, states, from Geoffrey of Monmouth, "that it was built by Belin, a king of the Britons, whose ashes were enclosed in a vessel of brass, and set upon a high pinnacle ofstone over the sameGate." ... "That it was the largest waterGateon the River of Thames." ... "That it is at this day a large waterGate," &c. Can you, Mr. Editor, or any of your respected correspondents, refer me to any drawing or description of the saidGate?
WILLIAM WILLIAMS.
Rood Lane, Nov. 24. 1849.
Mr. Editor,—Can any of your readers inform me if that branch of the ancient family ofPointz, which was seated at Greenham, in the parish of Ashbrittle, in Somersetshire, is extinct, and when the male issue failed? Some of them intermarried with the Chichesters, Pynes, and other old Devonshire families.
The Pointzes remained at Greenham after 1600.
L.B.
Sir,—In theTesta de Nevillappear the following entries:—
P. 237. a "terra Willi de Montellis (read Moncellis) in villa de Cumpton pertinet admarescauciamdomini Regis," &c.P. 2269. a. "Will's de Munceus tenet Parvam Angram (Little Ongar, in Essex) de Domino Rege deMareschauciequæ fuit de Baronia Gilberti de Tani."P. 235. b. "Waleramus de Munceus tenet Cumpton per serjantiamMarescautiæ."
P. 237. a "terra Willi de Montellis (read Moncellis) in villa de Cumpton pertinet admarescauciamdomini Regis," &c.
P. 2269. a. "Will's de Munceus tenet Parvam Angram (Little Ongar, in Essex) de Domino Rege deMareschauciequæ fuit de Baronia Gilberti de Tani."
P. 235. b. "Waleramus de Munceus tenet Cumpton per serjantiamMarescautiæ."
If any of your readers can throw any light on the signification of the word "Marescautia," occurring in these extracts, and the tenure referred to, they will greatly oblige
D.S.
The Work of Walter Mapes, "De Nugis Curialium," respecting which we inserted a Query from the Rev. L.B. Larking, in our last number, is editing for the Camden Society by Mr. Wright, and will form one of the next publications issued to the members.
Messrs. Sotheby and Co., of Wellington Street, Strand, will be occupied during the week commencing on Monday, the 17th instant, with the sale of "the third portion of the stock of the late eminent bookseller, Mr. Thomas Rodd, comprising rare and valuable works of the early English poets and dramatists; facetiæ, romances, and novels, and other departments of elegant literature."
Mr. Rodd's knowledge, great in all departments of bibliography, was particularly so in that of our early poetical and dramatical writers; and although the numerous commissions he held for such rarities in it as he secured, necessarily prevented their being left upon his shelves, the present collection exhibits a number of articles calculated to interest our bibliographical friends, as the following specimens of a few Lots will show:—
578 Dedekindus (Fred.) School of Slovenrie, or Cato turned Wrong Side Outward, in Verse, by R.F. Gent.very rare, original binding: sold at Perry's sale for£11 11s.1605
591 De Soto (Barahona) Primera Parte de la Angelicablue morocco, rare Granada, 1586
No more than the first portion of this poem, which is in continuation of the Orlando of Ariosto, ever appeared. Cervantes notices it with great praise in his Don Quixote.
747 Jests and Jeeres, Pleasant Taunt and Merry Tales (wants all before B 2), VERY RARE.
One of these Jests mentions Shakspeare by name.
1211 MARIE of EGYPT, a sacred Poeme describing the Miraculous Life and Death of the Glorious Convert of, in verse.rare, russia, gilt edges no date(1650)
1212 MARKHAM (Robert), THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT EVER TO BE FAMED KNIGHT SIR JOHN BURGH,fine copy, with port. by Cecill1628
A POEM OF GREAT RARITY: the Bindley copy, afterwards Mr. Heber's, sold for £15.
1345 SHAKESPEARE (W.), COMEDIES, HISTORIES, AND TRAGEDIES, FIRST EDITION,wanting the title and four leaves at the end, soiledfolio, 1623
1451 Polimantcia, or the Means Lawfull and Unlawfull to judge of the Commonwealth,rare4to. 1595
Notice is made of Shakespeare (R 2), Spenser, Sir D. Lyndsay, Harvey, Nash, &c.
1606 SCOTLAND:—A VERY CURIOUS AND RARE SERIES OF LATIN POEMS (BY ALEXANDER JULIUS) on the Marriage or Deaths of some Scottish Nobles, as the Marchioness of Huntley,Edin.1607—Countess of Argyle,ib.1607—Earl Keith,ib.1609—Earl of Montrose,ib.1609—Prince Henry,ib.1612—Fredericke Prince Palatine,ib.1614—Earl of Lothian; with the author's Sylvarum liber, 1614
Of these rare poetical pieces four are unnoticed by Lowndes; five of them are published anonymously; but their similarity to those with an author's name testifies the source from which the others emanated.
The collection contains a good deal of early Dutch poetry, well deserving attention for the lights which we are sure may be thrown from it upon our own early national literature.
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DIBDIN's TYPOGRAPHICAL ANTIQUITIES. Vol. II.
CATALOGUE OF LIBRARY OF JOHN HOLME. Vol. IV. 1830 or 1833. In boards.
PINDAR, BY ABRAHAM MOORE, Part II, Boards. Uncut.
A TRACT, or SERMON, BY WM. STEPHENS, Fellow of Exeter Collegeand Vicar of Bampton, "THE SEVERAL HETERODOX HYPOTHESES CONCERNING BOTH THE PERSONS AND THE ATTRIBUTES OF THE GODHEAD, JUSTLY CHARGEABLE WITH MORE INCONSISTENCIES THAN THOSE IMPUTED TO THE ORTHODOX," &c. Printed about 1719 or later.
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SPECTATOR, Vol. IV. of the edition in 6 vols. small 8vo., 1826, with Preface by Lynam.
EVANS' OLD BALLADS. Vol. III. 1784.
HOLCROFT's LAVATER. Vol. I. 1789.
EDMONDSON'S HERALDRY. Vol. II. 1780.
FIELDING'S WORKS. Vol. XI. 1808. The 14 vol. Bookseller's edition.
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