INSCRIPTIONS IN BOOKS.

"In the first person simplyshallforetells;Inwilla threat or else a promise dwells:Shallin the second and the third does threat;Willsimply then foretells the coming feat."

"In the first person simplyshallforetells;

Inwilla threat or else a promise dwells:

Shallin the second and the third does threat;

Willsimply then foretells the coming feat."

(See T. K. Arnold'sEng. Gram. for Classical Schools, 3rd edit., p. 41.; Mitford,Harmony of Language; and note 5. in Rev. R. Twopeny'sDissertations on the Old and New Testament.)

The inconsistency in the use ofshallandwillis best explained by a doctrine of Mr. Hare's (J. C. H.), theusus ethicusof the future. (SeeCambridge Philological Museum, vol. ii. p. 203., where the subject is mentioned incidentally, and in illustration; and Latham'sEnglish Language, 2nd edit., p. 498., where Mr. Hare's hypothesis is given at length. Indeed, from Latham and T. K. Arnold my Note has been framed.)

F. S., B. A.

Lee.

(Vol. vii., p. 127.)

Your correspondentBalliolensis, at p. 127. of the current volume of "N. & Q.," gives several forms of inscriptions in books. The following may prove interesting to him, if not to the generality of your readers.

A MS. preserved in the Bibliothèque Sainte Généviève—it appears to have been the cellarer's book of the ancient abbey of that name, and to have been written about the beginning of the sixteenth century—bears on the fly-sheet the name of "Mathieu Monton, religieux et célérier de l'église de céans," with the following verses:

"Qui ce livre cy emblera,Propter suam maliciamAu gibet pendu sera,Repugnando superbiamAu gibet sera sa maison,Sive suis parentibus,Car ce sera bien raison,Exemplum datum omnibus."

"Qui ce livre cy emblera,

Propter suam maliciam

Au gibet pendu sera,

Repugnando superbiam

Au gibet sera sa maison,

Sive suis parentibus,

Car ce sera bien raison,

Exemplum datum omnibus."

An Ovid, printed in 1501, belonging to the Bibliothèque de Chinon, has the following verses:

"Ce present livre est à Jehan Theblereau."Qui le trouvera sy lui rende:Il lui poyra bien le vinLe jour et feste Sainct Martin,Et une mésenge à la Sainct Jean,Sy la peut prendre.

"Ce present livre est à Jehan Theblereau.

"Qui le trouvera sy lui rende:Il lui poyra bien le vinLe jour et feste Sainct Martin,Et une mésenge à la Sainct Jean,Sy la peut prendre.

"Qui le trouvera sy lui rende:

Il lui poyra bien le vin

Le jour et feste Sainct Martin,

Et une mésenge à la Sainct Jean,

Sy la peut prendre.

"Tesmoin mon synet manuel, cy mis le xejour de avril mil vctrente et cyns, après Pasque."

Here follows the paraphe.

School-boys in France write the following lines in their books after their names, and generally accompany them with a drawing of a man hanging on a gibbet:

"Aspice Pierrot pendu,Quòd librum n'a pas rendu;Pierrot pendu non fuisset,Si librum reddidisset."

"Aspice Pierrot pendu,

Quòd librum n'a pas rendu;

Pierrot pendu non fuisset,

Si librum reddidisset."

English school-boys use these forms:

"Hic liber est meusTestis est Deus.Si quis fureturA collo pendeturAd hunc modum."

"Hic liber est meus

Testis est Deus.

Si quis furetur

A collo pendetur

Ad hunc modum."

This is always followed by a drawing of a gibbet.

"John Smith, his book.God give him grace therein to look;Not only look but understand,For learning is better than house or land.When house and land are gone and spent,Then learning is most excellent.""John Smith is my name,England is my nation,London is my dwelling-place,And Christ is my salvation.When I am dead and in my grave,And all my bones are rotten,When this you see, remember me,When I am 'most forgotten.""Steal not this book, my honest friend,For fear the gallows should be your end,And when you're dead the Lord should say,Where is the book you stole away?""Steal not this book for fear of shame,For under lies the owner's name:The first isJohn, in letters bright,The secondSmith, to all men's sight;And if you dare to steal this book,The devil will take you with his hook."

"John Smith, his book.

God give him grace therein to look;

Not only look but understand,

For learning is better than house or land.

When house and land are gone and spent,

Then learning is most excellent."

"John Smith is my name,England is my nation,London is my dwelling-place,And Christ is my salvation.When I am dead and in my grave,And all my bones are rotten,When this you see, remember me,When I am 'most forgotten."

"John Smith is my name,

England is my nation,

London is my dwelling-place,

And Christ is my salvation.

When I am dead and in my grave,

And all my bones are rotten,

When this you see, remember me,

When I am 'most forgotten."

"Steal not this book, my honest friend,For fear the gallows should be your end,And when you're dead the Lord should say,Where is the book you stole away?"

"Steal not this book, my honest friend,

For fear the gallows should be your end,

And when you're dead the Lord should say,

Where is the book you stole away?"

"Steal not this book for fear of shame,For under lies the owner's name:The first isJohn, in letters bright,The secondSmith, to all men's sight;And if you dare to steal this book,The devil will take you with his hook."

"Steal not this book for fear of shame,

For under lies the owner's name:

The first isJohn, in letters bright,

The secondSmith, to all men's sight;

And if you dare to steal this book,

The devil will take you with his hook."

Honoré de Mareville.

Guernsey.

I forward you the following inscription, which I met with in an old copy of Cæsar'sCommentaries(if I remember rightly) at Pontefract, Yorkshire:

"Si quis hunc librum rapiat scelestusAtque scelestis manibus reservetIbit ad nigras Acherontis undasNon rediturus."

"Si quis hunc librum rapiat scelestus

Atque scelestis manibus reservet

Ibit ad nigras Acherontis undas

Non rediturus."

F. F. G. (Oxford).

(Vol. vii., p.493.)

I have to thank L. for his notice of my edition of theAdvancement of Learning, as well as for the information which he has given me, of which I hope to have an early opportunity of availing myself. As he expresses a hope that it may be followed by similar editions of other of Bacon's works, I may state that theEssays, with theColours of Good and Evil, are already printed, and will be issued very shortly. I am quite conscious that the references in the margin are by no means complete: indeed, as I had onlyhoræ subsecivæto give to the work, I did not attempt to make them so.But I thought it might be useful to give a general indication of the sources from which the writer drew, and therefore put in all that I could find, without the expenditure of a great deal of time. Consequently I fear that those I have omitted will not be found to be the most obvious.

I shall be glad to make a few remarks on some of the passages noticed by L.

P. 25.—Of this piece of carelessness—for which I do not the less feel that I deserved a rebuke because L. has not administered it—I had already been made aware by the kindness of a friend. I confess I had never heard of Osorius, which is perhaps no great matter for wonder; but I looked for his name both in Bayle and the catalogue of the library of the British Museum, and by some oversight missed it. I have since found it in both. I cannot help, however, remarking that this is a good example of the advantage of notingeverydeviation from the received text. Had I tacitly transposed three letters of the word in question (a small liberty compared with some that my predecessors have taken), my corruption of the text might have passed unnoticed. I have not had much experience in these things; but if the works of English writers in general have been tampered with by editors as much as I have found theAdvancementandEssaysof Lord Bacon to be, I fear they must have suffered great mutilation. I rather incline to think it is the case, for I have had occasion lately to compare two editions of Paley'sHoræ Paulinæ, and I find great differences in the text. All this looks suspicious.

P. 34.—I spent some time in searching for this passage in Aristotle, but I could not discover it. I did not look elsewhere.

P. 60.—In the forthcoming edition of theEssaysI have referred to Plutarch,Gryll., 1., which I incline to think is the passage Bacon had in his mind. The passage quoted from Cicero I merely meant to point out for comparison.

P. 146.—The passage quoted is from Sen.ad Lucil., 52.

P. 147.—Ad Lucil., 53.

P. 159.—Ad Lucil., 71.

Two or three other passages from Seneca will be found without any reference. One of them, p. 13., "Quidam sunt tam umbratiles ut putent in turbido esse quicquid in luce est," I have taken some pains to hunt for, but hitherto without success. Another noticeable one, "Vita sine proposito languida et vaga est," is fromEp. ad Lucil., 95.

For the reference to Aristotle I am much obliged. I was anxious to trace all the quotations from Aristotle, but could not find this one.

P. 165.—I cannot answer this question. Is it possible that he was thinking of St. Augustine? In theConfessions, i. 25., we kind the expressionvinum erroris.

P. 177.—No doubt Bacon had read the treatise of Sallust quoted, but my impression is that he thought the proverb had grown out of the line in Plautus.

P. 180.—I have searched again for "alimenta socordiæ," as it is quoted in theColours of Good and Evil, but cannot fix upon any passage from which I can say it was taken, though there are many which might have suggested it. One at p. 19. of theAdvancement, which I missed at first, I have since met with. It is from theCherson., p. 106.

Thomas Markby.

Test for a good Lens.—The generality of purchasers of photographic lenses can content themselves with merely the following rules when they buy. It ought to be achromatic,i. e.consisting of the usual two pieces of crown and flint glass, that its curves are the most recommended, and that it is free from bubbles: to ascertain the latter, hold the lens between the finger and thumb of the right hand, much as an egg-merchant examines an egg before a strong gas flame, and a little to the right of it; this reveals every bubble, however small, and another kind of texture like minute gossamer threads. If these are too abundant, it should not be chosen; although the best lenses are never altogether free from these defects, it is on the whole better to have one or two good-sized bubbles than any density of texture; because it follows, that every inequality will refract pencils of light out of the direction they ought to go; and as bubbles do the same thing, but as they do not refract away so much light, they are not of much consequence.

I believe if a lens is made as thin as it safely can be, it will be quicker than a thicker one. I have two precisely the same focus, and one thinner than the other; the thinner is much the quicker of the two. An apparently indifferent lens should be tried with several kinds of apertures, till it will take sharp pictures; but if no size of aperture can make it, or a small aperture takes a very long time, it is a bad lens. M. Claudet, whose long experience in the art has given him the requisite judgment, changes the diameter of his lenses often during the day; and tries occasionally, in his excellent plan, the places of the chemical focus: by this his time is always nearly the same, and the results steady. As he is always free in communicating his knowledge, he will, I think, always explain his method when he is applied to. The inexperienced photographer is often too prone to blame his lens when the failure proceeds more from the above causes. The variation of the chemical focus during a day's work is often the cause of disappointment: though it does not affect the landscape so much as the portrait operator.

If any one has a lens, the chemical and visual focus being different, his only remedy is M. Claudet's method. And this method will also prove better than any other way at present known of ascertaining whether a lens will take a sharp picture or not. If, however, any plan could be devised for making the solar spectrum visible upon a sheet of paper inside the camera, it would reduce the question of taking sharp pictures at once into a matter of certainty.

All lenses, however, should be tried by the opticians who sell them; and if they presented a specimen of their powers to a buyer, he could see in a moment what their capabilities were.

Weld Taylor.

Bayswater.

Photography and the Microscope(Vol. vii., p. 507.).—I beg to inform your correspondents R. I. F. and J., that in Number 3. of theQuarterly Journal of Microscopical Science(Highley, Fleet Street) they will find three papers containing more or less information on the subject of their Query; and a plate, exhibiting two positive photographs from collodion negatives, in the same number, will give a good idea of what they may expect to attain in this branch of the art.

Practically, I know nothing of photography; but, from my acquaintance with the modern achromatic microscope, I venture to say that photography applied to this instrument will be of no farther use than asan assistant to the draughtsman. A reference to the plates alluded to will show how incompetent it is to producepicturesof microscopic objects: any one who has seen these objects under a good instrument will acknowledge that these specimens give but a very faint idea of what the microscope actually exhibits.

It is unfortunately the case, that the more perfect the instrument, the less adapted it is for producing photographic pictures; for, in those of the latest construction, the aperture of the object-glasses is carried to such an extreme, that the observer is obliged to keep his hand continually on the fine adjustment, in order to accommodate the focus to the differentplanesin which different parts of the object lie. This is the case even with so low a power as the half-inch object-glasses, those of Messrs. Powell and Lealand being of the enormous aperture of 65°; and if this is the case while looking through the instrument when this disadvantage is somewhat counteracted by the power which the eye has, to a certain degree, of adjusting itself to the object under observation, how much more inconvenient will it be found in endeavouring to focus the whole object at once on the ground glass plate, where such an accommodating power no longer exists. The smaller the aperture of the object-glasses, in reason, the better they will be adapted for photographic purposes.

Again, another peculiarity of the object-glasses of the achromatic microscope gives rise to a farther difficulty; they are over-corrected for colour, the spectrum is reversed, or the violet rays are projected beyond the red: this is in order to meet the requirements of the eye-piece. But with the photographic apparatus the eye-piece is not used, so that, after the object has been brought visually into focus in the camera, a farther adjustment is necessary, in order to focus for the actinic rays, which reside in the violet end of the spectrum. This is effected by withdrawing the object-glass a little from the object, in which operation there is no guide but experience; moreover, the amount of withdrawal differs with each object-glass.

However, the inconvenience caused by this over-chromatic correction may, I think, be remedied by the use of the achromatic condenser in the place of an object-glass; that kind of condenser, at least, which is supplied by thefirstmicroscopic makers. I cannot help thinking that this substitution will prove of some service; for, in the first place, the power of the condenser is generally equal to that of a quarter of an inch object-glass, which is perhaps the most generally useful of all the powers; and again, its aperture is, I think, not usually so great as that which an object-glass of the same power would have; and, moreover, as to correction, though it is slightly spherically under-corrected to accommodate the plate-glass under the object, yet the chromatic correction isperfect. The condenser is easily detached from its "fittings," and its application to the camera would be as simple as that of an ordinary object-glass.

However, my conviction remains that, in spite of all that perseverance and science can accomplish, it never will be in the power of the photographer to produce a picture of an object under the microscope,equally distinct in all its parts; and unless his art can effect this, I need scarcely say that his best productions can be but useful auxiliaries to the draughtsman.

I see by an advertisement that the Messrs. Highley supply everything that is necessary for the application of photography to the microscope.

H. C. K.

—— Rectory, Hereford.

In reply to your correspondent J., I would ask if he has any photographic apparatus? if so, the answer to his question "What extra apparatus is required to a first-rate microscope in order to obtain photographic microscopic pictures?" would beNone; but if not, he would require a camera, or else a wooden conical body, with plate-holder, &c., besides the ordinary photographic outfit. Part III. of theMicroscopical Journal, published by Highley & Son, Fleet Street, will give him all the information he requires.

φ. (p. 506.) may find a solution of his difficulties regarding the production of stereoscopic pictures, in the following considerations. The object of having two pictures is to present toeach eyean image of what it sees in nature; but as the angle subtended by a line, of which the pupils of the eyes form the extremities, must differ for every distance, and for objects of varying sizes, it follows there is noabsoluterule that can be laid down as the only correct one. Fordistantviews there is in nature scarcely any stereoscopic effect; and in a photographic stereoscopic view the effect produced is not really a representation to the eye of theview itself, but ofa model of such view; and the apparent size of the model will vary with the angle of incidence of the two pictures, beingsmallerandneareras the angle increases. I believe Professor Wheatstone recommends for landscapes 1 in 25, or about half an inch to every foot.

Geo. Shadbolt.

Cement for Glass Baths.—In reply to numerous inquiries which have appeared in "N. & Q." relative to a good cement for making glass baths for photographic purposes, I send a recipe which I copied a year or two ago from some newspaper, and which seems likely to answer the purpose: I have not tried it myself, not being a photographer.

Caoutchouc 15 grains, chloroform 2 ounces, mastic ½ an ounce. The two first-named ingredients are to be mixed first, and after the gum is dissolved, the mastic is to be added, and the whole allowed to macerate for a week. When great elasticity is desirable, more caoutchouc may be added. This cement is perfectly transparent, and is to be applied with a brush cold.

H. C. K.

—— Rectory, Hereford.

Mr. Lyte's Mode of Printing.—All persons who have experienced disappointment in the printing of their positive pictures will feel obliged byMr. Lyte'ssuggestion as to the bath; but as the preparation of the positive paper has also a great deal to say to the ultimate result,Mr. Lytewould confer an additional obligation if he gave the treatment he adopts for this.

I have observed that the negative collodion picture exercises a good deal of influence on the ultimate colour of the positive, and that different collodion negatives will give different results in this respect, when the paper and treatment with each has been precisely the same. Does this correspond with other persons' experience?

C. E. F.

Eulenspiegel or Ulenspiegel(Vol. vii., pp. 357. 416. 507.).—Mr. Thoms'ssuggestion, and his quotation in proof thereof from the Chronicler, are farther verified by the following inscription and verses which I transcribe from an engraved portrait of the famous jester:

"Ulenspiegel.

"Ligt Begraben zu Dom in Flandern in der grosen Kirch, auf dem Grabister also Likend abgebildet. Starb Ao. 1301."

These lines are above the portrait, and beneath it are the verses next following:

"TchauUlenspiegelnhier. Das Bildniss macht dich lachen:Was wurdst du thun siehst du jhn selber Possen machen?ZwarThÿleist ein Bild undSpiegeldieser Welt,Viel Bruder er verliess; Wir treiben Narretheÿen,In dem uns dunckt, dass wir die grosten Weysen seÿen,Drum lache deiner selbst; diss Blat dich dir vorstellt."

"TchauUlenspiegelnhier. Das Bildniss macht dich lachen:

Was wurdst du thun siehst du jhn selber Possen machen?

ZwarThÿleist ein Bild undSpiegeldieser Welt,

Viel Bruder er verliess; Wir treiben Narretheÿen,

In dem uns dunckt, dass wir die grosten Weysen seÿen,

Drum lache deiner selbst; diss Blat dich dir vorstellt."

The portrait, evidently that of a man of large intellect, is very life-like, and full of animation. He seems to be some fifty years of age or so; he has a cap, ornamented by large feather, on his head. He is seated in a chair, has a book in his hand, and is attired in a kind of magisterial robe bordered with fur. There is a good-humoured roguish twinkle in his eyes; and I should be inclined to call him, judging from the portrait before me, an epigrammatist rather than mere vulgar jester. The engraving is beautifully executed: it has neither date nor place of publication, but its age may perhaps be determined by the names of the painter (Paulus Furst) and engraver (P. Troschel). The orthography is by no means of recent date. I cannot translate the verses to my own satisfaction; and should feel much obliged if you,Mr. Editor, orMr. Thoms, would favour the readers of "N. & Q." with an English version thereof.

Henry Campkin.

Reform Club.

Lawyers' Bags(Vol. vii., pp. 85. 144.).—Colonel Landman is doubtless correct in his statement as to the colour of barristers' bags; but from the evidence of ATemplarandCausidicus, we must place the change from green to red at some period anterior to the trial of Queen Caroline. In Queen Anne's time they weregreen.

"I am told, Cousin Diego, you are one of those that have undertaken to manage me, and that you have said you will carry agreen bagyourself, rather than we shall make an end of our lawsuit: I'll teach them and you too to manage."—The History of John Bull, by Dr. Arbuthnot, Part I. ch. xv.

T. H. Kersley, B. A.

Audlem, Cheshire.

"Nine Tailors make a Man"(Vol. vi., pp. 390. 563.; Vol. vii., p. 165.).—The origin of this saying is to be sought for elsewhere than in England only. Le Conte de la Villemarqué, in hisinteresting collection of Breton ballads,Barzas-Breiz, vol. i. p. 35., has the following passage:

"Les tailleurs, cette classe vouée au ridicule, en Bretagne, comme dans le pays de Galles, en Irlande, en Ecosse, en Allemagne et ailleurs, et qui l'était jadis chez toutes les nations guerrières, dont la vie agitée et errante s'accordait mal avec une existence casanière et paisible. Le peuple dit encore de nos jours en Bretagne,qu'il faut neuf tailleurs pour faire un homme, et jamais il ne prononce leur nom, sans ôter son chapeau, et sans dire: 'Sauf votre respect.'"

The saying is current also in Normandy, at least in those parts which border on Britany. Perhaps some of the readers of "N. & Q." may be able to say whether it is to be found in other parts of Europe.

Honoré de Mareville.

Guernsey.

"Time and I"(Vol. vii., pp. 182. 247.).—Arbuthnot calls it a Spanish proverb. In theHistory of John Bull, we read among the titles of other imaginary chapters in the "Postscript," that of—

"Ch. XVI. Commentary upon theSpanishProverb,Time and I against any Two; or Advice to Dogmatical Politicians, exemplified in some New Affairs between John Bull andLewis Baboon."

T. H. Kersley, B. A.

Audlem, Cheshire.

Carr Pedigree(Vol. vii., pp. 408. 512.).—W.St. says that William Carr married Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Sing, Bishop of Cork. The name is Synge, not Sing. The family name was originally Millington, and was changed to Synge by Henry VIII. or Queen Elizabeth, on account of the sweetness of the voice of one of the family, who was a clergyman, and the ancestor of George Synge, Bishop of Cloyne; Edward Synge, Bishop of Ross; Edward Synge, Archbishop of Tuam; Edward Synge, Bishop of Leighlin and Ferns; Nicholas Synge, Bishop of Killaloe; the late Sir Samuel Synge Hutchinson, Archdeacon of Killala; and of the present Sir Edward Synge.

I cannot find that any of these church dignitaries had a daughter married to Wm. Carr. Nicholas Synge, Bishop of Killaloe, left a daughter, Elizabeth, who died unmarried in 1834, aged ninety-nine; but I cannot discover that either of the other bishops of that family had a daughter Elizabeth.

Gulielmus.

Campvere, Privileges of(Vol. vii., pp. 262. 440.).—What were these privileges, and whence was the term derived?

"Veria, quæ et Canfera, vel Campoveria potius dicitur, alterum est inter oppida hujus insulæ, muro et mœnibus clausa, situ quidem ad aquilonem obversa, et in ipso oceani littore: fossam habet, quæ Middelburgum usque extenditur, à quâ urbe leucæ tantum unius, etc."Estque oppidulum satis concinnum, et mercimoniis florens, maxime propter commercia naviumScoticarum, quæ in isto potissimum portu stare adsueverunt."Scotorumdenique, superioribus annis, frequentatione celebris etScoticarummercium, præcipue vellerum ovillorum, stapula, ut vocant, et emporium esse cœpit."—L. Guicciardini,Belgium(1646), vol. ii. pp. 67, 68.

"Estque oppidulum satis concinnum, et mercimoniis florens, maxime propter commercia naviumScoticarum, quæ in isto potissimum portu stare adsueverunt.

"Scotorumdenique, superioribus annis, frequentatione celebris etScoticarummercium, præcipue vellerum ovillorum, stapula, ut vocant, et emporium esse cœpit."—L. Guicciardini,Belgium(1646), vol. ii. pp. 67, 68.

Will J. D. S. be so good as to say where he found the "Campvere privileges" referred to?

Haulf-naked(Vol. vii., p. 432.).—The conjecture thatHalf-nakedwas a manor in co. Sussex is verified by entries inCal. Rot. Pat., 11 Edw. I., m. 15.; and 13 Edw. I., m. 18. Also inAbbreviatio Rot. Orig., 21 Edw. III.,Rot.21.; in which latter it is speltHalnaked.

J. W. S. R.

St. Ives, Hunts.

Old Picture of the Spanish Armada(Vol. vii., p. 454.).—Although perhaps this may not be reckoned an answer to J. S. A.'s Query on this head, I have to inform you that in the steeple part of Gaywood Church near this town, is a fine old painting of Queen Elizabeth reviewing the forces at Tilbury Fort, and the Spanish fleet in the distance. It is framed, and sadly wants cleaning.

J. N. C.

King's Lynn.

Parochial Libraries(Vol. vi., p. 432., &c.).—We have in St. Margaret's parish a parochial library, which is kept in a room fitted up near the vestry of the church in this town.

J. N. C.

King's Lynn.

To the list of places where there are parochial libraries may be added Bewdley, in Worcestershire. There is a small library in the Grammar School of that place, consisting, if I recollect aright, mainly of old divinity, under the care of the master: though it is true, for some years, there has been no master.

S. S. S.

In the preface to theLife of Lord Keeper Guilford, by Roger North, it appears that Dudleys youngest daughter of Charles, and granddaughter of Dudley Lord North, dying,—

"Her library, consisting of a choice collection of Oriental books, by the present Lord North and Grey, her only surviving brother, was given to the parochial library of Rougham in Norfolk, where it now remains."

This library then existed in 1742, the date of the first edition of the work.

Furvus.

St. James's.

How to stain Deal(Vol. vii., p. 356.).—Your correspondent C. will find that a solution ofasphaltum in boiling turpentine is a very good stain to dye deal to imitate oak. This must be applied when cold with a brush to the timbers: allowed to get dry, then size and varnish it.

The dye, however, which I always use, is a compound of raw umber and a small portion of blue-black diluted to the shade required with strong size in solution: this must be used hot. It is evident that this will not require the preparatory sizing before the application of the varnish. Common coal, ground in water, and used the same as any other colour, I have found to be an excellent stain for roof timbers.

W. H. Cullingford.

Cromhall, Gloucestershire.

Roger Outlawe(Vol. vii., p. 332.).—Of this person, who was Lord Deputy of Ireland for many years of the reign of Edward III., some particulars will be found in the notes to theProceedings against Dame Alice Kyteler, edited for the Camden Society by Mr. Wright, p. 49. There is evidently more than one misreading in the date of the extract communicated by theRev. H. T. Ellacombe: "die pasche in viiij mense anno B. Etii post ultimum conquestum hibernia quarto." I cannot interpret "in viiij mense;" but the rest should evidently be "annoRegis Edwardi tertiipost ultimum conquestum Hiberniæ quarto."

May I ask whether this "last conquest of Ireland" has been noticed by palæographers in other instances?

Anon.

Tennyson(Vol. vii., p. 84.).—Will not the following account by Lord Bacon, in hisHistory of Henry VII., of the marriage by proxy between Maximilian, King of the Romans, and the Princess Anne of Britany, illustrate for your correspondent H. J. J. his last quotation from Tennyson?

"She to meWas proxy-wedded with a bootless calf,At eight years old."

"She to me

Was proxy-wedded with a bootless calf,

At eight years old."

"Maximilian so far forth prevailed, both with the young lady and with the principal persons about her, as the marriage was consummated by proxy, with a ceremony at that time in these parts new. For she was not only publicly contracted, but stated, as a bride, and solemnly bedded; and after she was laid, there came in Maximilian's ambassador with letters of procuration, and in the presence of sundry noble personages, men and women, put his leg, stripped naked to the knee, between the espousal sheets," &c.

Tyro.

Dublin.

Old Fogie(Vol. vii., p. 354.).—Mr. Keightleysupposes the term ofold fogie, as applied to "mature old warriors," to be "of pure Irish origin," or "rather of Dublin birth." In this he is certainly mistaken, for the wordfogie, as applied to old soldiers, is as well known, and was once as familiarly used in Scotland, as it ever was or could have been in Ireland. The race was extinct before my day, but I understand that formerly the permanent garrisons of Edinburgh, and I believe also of Stirling, Castles, consisted of veteran companies; and I remember, when I first came to Edinburgh, of people who had seen them, still talking of "the Castle fogies."

Dr. Jamieson, in hisScottish Dictionary, defines the word "foggie or fogie," to be first, "an invalid, or garrison soldier," secondly, "a person advanced in life" and derives it from "Su. G.fogde, formerly one who had the charge of a garrison."

This seems to me a more satisfactory derivation thanMr. Keightley's, who considers it a corruption or diminutive ofold folks.

J. L.

City Chambers, Edinburgh.

Errata corrigenda.—Vol. ii., p. 356. col. 2., near the bottom, for SirWilliamJardine, read SirHenryJardine. Sir William and Sir Henry were very different persons, though the former was probably the more generally known. Sir H. was the author of the report referred to.

Vol. vii., p. 441. col. 1. line 15, forLenierreadFerrier.

J. L.

City Chambers, Edinburgh.

Anecdote of Dutens(Vol. vii., pp. 26. 390.).—

"Lord Lansdowne at breakfast mentioned of Dutens, who wroteMémoires d'un Voyageur qui se repose, and was a great antiquarian, that, on his describing once his good luck in having found (what he fancied to be) a tooth of Scipio's in Italy, some one asked him what he had done with it, upon which he answered briskly: 'What have I done with it? Le voici,' pointing to his mouth; where he had made it supplemental to a lost one of his own."—Moore'sJournal, vol. iv. p. 271.

E. H. A.

Gloves at Fairs(Vol. vii., p. 455.).—In Hone'sEvery-day Book(vol. ii. p. 1059.) is the following paragraph:—

"Exeter Lammas Fair.—The charter for this fair is perpetuated by a glove of immense size, stuffed and carried through the city on a very long pole, decorated with ribbons, flowers, &c., and attended with music, parish beadles, and the mobility. It is afterwards placed on the top of the Guildhall, and then the fair commences: on the taking down of the glove, the fair terminates.—P."

As to Crolditch,aliasLammas Fair, at Exeter, see Izacke'sRemarkable Antiquities of the City of Exeter, pp. 19, 20.

C. H. Cooper.

Cambridge.

At Macclesfield, in Cheshire, a large glove was, perhaps is, always suspended from the outside of the window of the town-hall during the holding of a fair; and as long as the glove was so suspended, every one was free from arrest within thetownship, and, I have heard, while going and returning to and from the fair.

Edward Hawkins.

At Free Mart, at Portsmouth, a glove used to be hung out of the town-hall window, and no one could be arrested during the fortnight that the fair lasted.

F. O. Martin.

Arms—Battle-axe(Vol. vii., p. 407.).—The families which bore three Dane-axes or battle-axes in their coats armorial were very numerous in ancient times. It may chance to be of service to your Querist A.C. to be informed, that those of Devonshire which displayed these bearings were the following: Dennys, Batten, Gibbes, Ledenry, Wike, Wykes, and Urey.

J. D. S.

Enough(Vol. vii., p. 455.).—In Staffordshire, and I believe in the other midland counties, this word is usually pronouncedenoo, and writtenenow. In Richardson'sDictionaryit will be found "enough or enow;" and the etymology is evidently from the Germangenug, from the verbgenugen, to suffice, to be enough, to content, to satisfy. The Anglo-Saxon isgenog. I remember the burden of an old song which I frequently heard in my boyish days:

"I know not, I care not,I cannot tell how to woo,But I'll away to the merry green woods,And there get nutsenow."

"I know not, I care not,

I cannot tell how to woo,

But I'll away to the merry green woods,

And there get nutsenow."

This evidently shows what the pronunciation was when it was written.

J. A. H.

Enoughis from the same root as the Germangenug, where the firstghas been lost, and the latter softened and almost lost in its old English pronunciation,enow. The modern pronunciation is founded, as that of many other words is, upon an affected style of speech, ridiculed by Holofernes.[4]The wordbread, for example, is almost universally calledbred; but in Chaucer's poetry and indeed now in Yorkshire, it is pronounced bré-äd, a dissyllable.

T. J. Buckton.

Birmingham.

Footnote 4:(return)The Euphuists are probably chargeable with this corruption.

The Euphuists are probably chargeable with this corruption.

In Vol. vii., p. 455. there is an inquiry respecting the change in the pronunciation of the wordenough, and quotations are given from Waller, where the word is used, rhyming withbowandplough. But though speltenough, is not the word, in both places, reallyenow? and is there not, in fact, a distinction between the two words? Does notenoughalways refer toquantity, andenowtonumber: the former, to what may bemeasured; the latter, to that which may becounted? In both quotations the wordenoughrefers tonumbers?

S. S. S.

Feelings of Age(Vol. vii., p. 429.).—A.C. asks if it "is not the general feeling, that man in advancing years would not like to begin life again?" I fear not. It is a wisdom above the average of what men possess that made the good Sir Thomas Browne say:

"Though I think no man can live well once, but he that could live twice, yet for my own part I would not live over my hours past, or begin again the thread of my dayes: not upon Cicero's ground—because I have lived them well—but for fear I should live them worse. I find my growing judgment daily instruct me how to be better, but my untamed affections and confirmed vitiosity make me daily do worse. I find in my confirmed age the same sins I discovered in my youth; I committed many then, because I was a child, and, because I commit them still, I am yet an infant. Therefore I perceive a man may be twice a child before the days of dotage, and stand in need of Æson's bath before threescore."

The annotator refers toCic., lib. xxiv. ep. 4.:

"Quod reliquum est, sustenta te, mea Terentia, ut potes, honestissimè. Viximus: floruimus: non vitium nostrum, sed virtus nostra, nos afflixit. Peccatum est nullum, nisi quod non unâ animam cum ornamentis amisimus."—Edit. Orell., vol. iii. part i. p. 335.

However, it seems probable that Sir Thomas meant that this sentiment is rather to be gathered from Cicero's writings,—not enunciated in a single sentence.

H. C. K.

—— Rectory, Hereford.

Optical Query(Vol. vii., p. 430.).—In reply to the optical Query by H. H., I venture to suggest that a stronger gust of wind than usual might easily occasion the illusion in question, as I myself have frequently found in looking at the fans on the tops of chimneys. Or possibly the eyes may have been confused by gazing on the revolving blades, just as the tongue is frequently influenced in its accentuation by pronouncing a word of two syllables in rapid articulations.

F. F. S.

Oxford.

Cross and Pile(Vol. vii., p.487.).—Here is another explanation at least as satisfactory as some of the previous ones:

"The wordcoinitself is money struck on thecoinor head of the flattened metal, by which wordcoinorheadis to be understood theobverse, the only side which in the infancy of coining bore the stamp. Thence the Latincuneus, fromcuneorkyn, the head."This side was also calledpile, in corruption frompoll, a head, not only from the side itself being thecoinorhead, but from its being impressed most commonly with some head in contradistinction to the reverse, which, in latter times, was oftenest a cross. Thence the vulgarism,cross or pile, poll, head."—Cleland'sSpecimen of an Etymological Vocabulary, p. 157.

"This side was also calledpile, in corruption frompoll, a head, not only from the side itself being thecoinorhead, but from its being impressed most commonly with some head in contradistinction to the reverse, which, in latter times, was oftenest a cross. Thence the vulgarism,cross or pile, poll, head."—Cleland'sSpecimen of an Etymological Vocabulary, p. 157.

A. Holt White.

Capital Punishments(Vol. vii., pp. 52. 321.).—The authorities to which W. L. N. refers not being generally accessible, he would confer a very great obligation by giving the names and dates of execution of any of the individuals alluded to by him, who have undergone capital punishment in this country for exercising the Roman Catholic religion. Herein, it is almost needless to remark, I exclude such cases as those of Babington, Ballard, Parsons, Garnett, Campion, Oldcorne, and others, their fellows, who suffered, as every reader of history knows, for treasonable practices against the civil and christian policy and government of the realm.

Cowgill.

Thomas Bonnell(Vol. vii., p. 305.).—In what year was this person, about whose publishedLifeJ. S. B. inquires, Mayor of Norwich? His name, as such, does not occur in the lists of Nobbs, Blomefield, or Ewing.

Cowgill.

Passage in the First Part of Faust(Vol. vii., p. 501.).—Mr. W. Fraserwill find good illustrations of the question he has raised in his second suggestion for the elucidation of this passage inThe Abbot, chap. 15.ad fin.andnote.

A few weeks after giving this reference, in answer to a question byEmdee(see "N. & Q.," Vol. i., p. 262.; Vol. ii., p. 47.), I sent in English, for I am not a German scholar, as an additional reply toEmdee, the very same passage thatMr. Fraserhas just forwarded, but it was not inserted, probably because its fitness as an illustration was not very evident.

My intention in sending that second reply was to show that, as inChristabelandThe Abbot, the voluntary andsustainedeffort required to introduce the evil spirit was of a physical, so inFaustit was of a mental character; and I confess that I am much pleased now to find my opinion supported by the accidental testimony of another correspondent.

It must, however, be allowed that the peculiar wording of the passage under consideration may make it difficult, if not impossible, to separateearnestfrom themagicalform in which Faust's command to enter his room is given. Göthe's intention, probably, was to combine and illustrate both.

As proofs of the belief in the influence of the numberthreein incantation, I may refer to Virg.Ecl.viii. 73—78.; to a passage in Apuleius, which describes the resuscitation of a corpse by Zachlas, the Egyptian sorcerer;

"Propheta, sic propitiatus, herbulam quampiam ter ob os corporis, et aliam pectori ejus imponit."—Apul.Metamorph., lib. ii. sect. 39. (Regent's Classics);

and to the rhyming spell that raised the White Lady of Avenel at the Corrie nan Shian. (SeeThe Monastery, chaps. xi. and xvii.)

C. Forbes.

Sir Josias Bodley(Vol. vii., p. 357.).—Your correspondent Y. L. will find some account of the family of Bodley in Prince'sWorthies of Devon, edit. 1810, pp. 92-105., and in Moore'sHistory of Devon, vol. ii. pp. 220-227. See also "N. & Q.," Vol. iv., pp. 59. 117. 240.

J. D. S.

Claret(Vol. vii., p. 237.).—The wordclaretis evidently derived directly from the French wordclairet; which is used, even at the present day, as a generic name for the "vins ordinaires," of a light and thin quality, grown in the south of France. The name is never applied but to red wines; and it is very doubtful whether it takes its appellation from any place, being always used adjectively—"vin clairet," notvindeclairet. I am perhaps not quite correct in stating, that the word is always used as an adjective; for we sometimes findclairetused alone as a substantive; but I conceive that in this case the wordvinis to be understood, as we say "du Bordeaux," "du Champagne," meaning "du vin de Bordeaux," "du vin de Champagne."Eau clairetteis the name given to a sort of cherry-brandy; and lapidaries apply the nameclairetteto a precious stone, the colour of which is not so deep as it ought to be. This latter fact may lead one to suppose that the wine derived its name from beingclearerand lighter in colour than the more full-bodied vines of the south. The word is constantly occurring in old drinking-songs. A song of Olivier Basselin, the minstrel of Vire, begins with these words:

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