Footnote 4:(return)It was in the lane between Folkesworth and the Norman Cross Barracks, that Borrow was first induced to try the gipsy life. (VideLavengro.)
It was in the lane between Folkesworth and the Norman Cross Barracks, that Borrow was first induced to try the gipsy life. (VideLavengro.)
Bradford:
"Who lives here? who do you think?Major Lister: give him a drink.Give him a drink—for why?Because, when he's sweeping,He's always dry."
"Who lives here? who do you think?Major Lister: give him a drink.Give him a drink—for why?Because, when he's sweeping,He's always dry."
"Who lives here? who do you think?
Major Lister: give him a drink.
Give him a drink—for why?
Because, when he's sweeping,
He's always dry."
"John Thompson doth live here,He sweeps your chimney not too dear.And if your chimney should get on fire,He puts it out at your desire.Sweep that chimney clean,And then come down and drink."
"John Thompson doth live here,He sweeps your chimney not too dear.And if your chimney should get on fire,He puts it out at your desire.Sweep that chimney clean,And then come down and drink."
"John Thompson doth live here,
He sweeps your chimney not too dear.
And if your chimney should get on fire,
He puts it out at your desire.
Sweep that chimney clean,
And then come down and drink."
The public-houses to which the above are appended are kept by sweeps.
"Call here, my boy, if you are dry.The fault's in you, and not in I.If Robin Hood from home is gone,Step in and drink with Little John."
"Call here, my boy, if you are dry.The fault's in you, and not in I.If Robin Hood from home is gone,Step in and drink with Little John."
"Call here, my boy, if you are dry.
The fault's in you, and not in I.
If Robin Hood from home is gone,
Step in and drink with Little John."
The name of the public-house is "The Robin Hood."
Over another tavern door I noticed the following very pithy and brief sentence:
"Tobacco given away to-morrow."
"Tobacco given away to-morrow."
Charles Willison.
Bradford, Yorkshire.
A sign at Newhouse, a small public-house on Dartmoor, hard by a rabbit-warren, on the roadside leading from Moreton to Tavistock, six miles from the former town. John Roberts was the worthy landlord some considerable time since. It ran thus:
"John Roberts lives here,Sells brandy and beer,Your spirits to cheer;And should you want meat,To make up the treat,There be rabbits to eat."(A verbatim copy.)
"John Roberts lives here,Sells brandy and beer,Your spirits to cheer;And should you want meat,To make up the treat,There be rabbits to eat."(A verbatim copy.)
"John Roberts lives here,
Sells brandy and beer,
Your spirits to cheer;
And should you want meat,
To make up the treat,
There be rabbits to eat."
(A verbatim copy.)
A swinging sign on the front of a public-house on the borders of Dartmoor could once boast of like following quaint invitations.
The side presented to view, prior to entering the wild waste, underneath a rude painting of a weary traveller in a storm, had the following rude couplet:
"Before the wild moor you venture to pass,Pray step within and take a glass."
"Before the wild moor you venture to pass,Pray step within and take a glass."
"Before the wild moor you venture to pass,
Pray step within and take a glass."
The attempt at poetry on the reverse side, below a highly-coloured daub representing a Christmas fire on the hearth, surrounded by a goodly band of jolly fellows, read thus:
"Now that the bleak moor you've safely got over,Do stop a while, your spirits to recover."
"Now that the bleak moor you've safely got over,Do stop a while, your spirits to recover."
"Now that the bleak moor you've safely got over,
Do stop a while, your spirits to recover."
Over the door of a spirit and beer shop at the lower end of Market or High Street, Plymouth, may be seen the following very salutary aid disinterested piece of advice. It is printed in the triangle formed by the spread of a gigantic pair of compasses, which gives name to the house:
"Keep within compass,And then you'll be sure,To avoid many troubles,That others endure."
"Keep within compass,And then you'll be sure,To avoid many troubles,That others endure."
"Keep within compass,
And then you'll be sure,
To avoid many troubles,
That others endure."
The house is located near the quay; and it is devoutly to be wished that the jolly tars of the neighbourhood, who make it a constant place of resort, would profit by its wise counsel.
H. H. H.
There is (or was some two or three years since) at Coopersale, in Essex, a sign-board in front of the "Queen Victoria" (only a beer-house by the way), with these lines:
"The Queen some day,May pass this way,And see our Tom and Jerry;Perhaps she'll stop,And stand a drop,To make her subjects merry."
"The Queen some day,May pass this way,And see our Tom and Jerry;Perhaps she'll stop,And stand a drop,To make her subjects merry."
"The Queen some day,
May pass this way,
And see our Tom and Jerry;
Perhaps she'll stop,
And stand a drop,
To make her subjects merry."
On the other side are some different lines, which I forget.
Alexander Andrews.
Alexander Andrews.
Alexander Andrews.
1. At Overseal, Leicestershire:
"Robin Hood isDead and gone:Pray call, and drinkWith Little John."
"Robin Hood isDead and gone:Pray call, and drinkWith Little John."
"Robin Hood is
Dead and gone:
Pray call, and drink
With Little John."
2. The sign of "The Bee Hive," in Birmingham and other places:
"Within this Hive, we're all alive,Good liquor makes us funny:If you are dry, step in and try,The flavour of our honey."
"Within this Hive, we're all alive,Good liquor makes us funny:If you are dry, step in and try,The flavour of our honey."
"Within this Hive, we're all alive,
Good liquor makes us funny:
If you are dry, step in and try,
The flavour of our honey."
3. The sign of "The Gate" (of frequent occurrence):
"The Gate hangs well,And hinders none;Refresh and pay,And travel on."
"The Gate hangs well,And hinders none;Refresh and pay,And travel on."
"The Gate hangs well,
And hinders none;
Refresh and pay,
And travel on."
T. H. Kersley, B.A.
Audlem, Nantwich.
In King Street, Norwich, at the sign of "The Waterman," kept by a man who is a barber, and over whose door is the pole, are these lines:
"Roam not from pole to pole,But step in here;Where nought exceeds the shaving,But the beer."
"Roam not from pole to pole,But step in here;Where nought exceeds the shaving,But the beer."
"Roam not from pole to pole,
But step in here;
Where nought exceeds the shaving,
But the beer."
J. L. S.
There used to be at a small roadside inn, between Wetherby and Borobridge (Yorkshire), at a place called Ninivy, the following inscription;whether or not it is still in existence I cannot say:
"At Nineveh, where dwelt Old Toby,Pray stop and drink before you go by."
"At Nineveh, where dwelt Old Toby,Pray stop and drink before you go by."
"At Nineveh, where dwelt Old Toby,
Pray stop and drink before you go by."
C. I. R.
(Vol. ii., pp. 103. 175. 189. 311.; Vol. iv., p. 240.; Vol. vi., pp. 53. 112.; Vol. vii., pp. 167. 530.; Vol. viii., p. 603.)
(Vol. ii., pp. 103. 175. 189. 311.; Vol. iv., p. 240.; Vol. vi., pp. 53. 112.; Vol. vii., pp. 167. 530.; Vol. viii., p. 603.)
The curfew is still rung at Kidderminster at eight o'clock. It is the annual custom there, on a certain night, to continue the ringing for one hour, a sum of money having been left for that purpose as a thank-offering to God, for the curfew having been the means of saving a person from destruction. This person had lost his way on his return from Bridgenorth Fair, and when (as he afterwards discovered) on the point of falling from a great height, the sound of the Kidderminster curfew caused him to retrace his steps and regain the road. A five o'clock morning bell is also rung at Kidderminster. This and the curfew bell have been rung for many years past by "Blind William," who, notwithstanding his total blindness, finds his way along the streets that lead from his house to the church, and gains the belfry with the greatest ease. So well is he acquainted with the path to church, that he may be seen to turn the corners of the streets in as decided a manner as if his wide-open eyes were endowed with sight; and, with similar facility, he unlocks the gates and church doors. It is curious to see him on the dark winter evenings, apparently guiding his steps by the light of a lanthorn, which he probably carries in order to prevent careless people, who are blessed with sight, from running against him. Like most (if not all) blind people, he has an extraordinary ear for music, and will quickly reproduce on his violin any tune that may have caught his fancy. At this present festive period, a Kidderminster Christmas would lack one of its component parts, were Blind Willie and his fiddle not there to add to the harmony of the kindly season. During the month preceding Christmas, he promenades the streets at untimely hours, and draws from his old fiddle all the music which it is capable of giving forth. Indeed, Blind Willie may be considered (in Kidderminster at least) as the harbinger of Christmas, for he warns the inhabitants of its approach, long before the ordinary "waits" have taken their ordinary measures for the same purpose. And when Christmas Day is past and gone, he makes house-to-house visitation for the Christmas-box which is to be the reward of his "early minstrelsy."
The curfew is rung at Bewdley in Worcestershire.
At Durham the curfew is rung (on the great bell of the cathedral) at nine o'clock. It is therefore of the same use to the students of the University of Durham as "Tom" is to the students of the University of Oxford, viz. it marks the closing of the college gates.
Cuthbert Bede, B.A.
Photographic Engraving.—I inclose a copy of a little book for your inspection, which is remarkable only in this, that the illustrations are produced by photography. The general theory of the method is this: a piece of glass is covered with a uniform thin coating of some substance, so as to be opaque or semi-opaque (the substance should be light coloured), and a design is etched on it with a needle. From thisnegativepositive pictures are printed photographically.
As to details, the prints of the mice (p. 46.) and the cat (p. 37.) are from a glass coated with iodized collodion rendered sensitive, exposed to faint light for a short time and developed. In this method, the glass should be heated; and the collodionburnishedwith the hand, to make it adhere well.[5]The owl (p. 22.) and the stork (p. 10.) are from a glass coated with iodized collodion "rendered sensitive" only, and not developed so as to be only semi-opaque. On this high lights were put with opaque white, and darks were etched out. This has the effect of a tinted lithograph, but requires much more care in printing than the former method, in order to hit the right tint; so much so, that I have usually printed the stork faintly so as not to show the "tint" at all. The frontispiece is from a paper negative, a method much more troublesome and tedious than either of the others, both in preparation of the negative and in printing.
I have lately tried gilt glass to etch upon. This would be excellent, were it not most painful to the eyes. And more than two years ago, I prepared a negative by painting whites with water colour on transparent glass with moderate success.
I have recently received from Rome a positive printed from a negative on smoked glass, the subject being a mule's head. Of all the methods I have tried, the best is the first mentioned; and it seems to me easier than any species of engraving.
Query, What is the best coating for the glass; and what will be the cost of printing on a great scale, as compared with woodcut, lithograph, &c.; in which must be included the cost of the skilled workman which will be saved by this method?
Hugh Blackburn.
[When we add that the work referred to is an edition ofThe History of Little Downey, that the prints in it are executed by a lady, and printed at home by the photographic process, and that a limited number of copies may be had on application to Messrs.Constable and Co. of Edinburgh, the sale being for the benefit of the Glasgow Ragged School, we have no doubt many of our readers will be glad to secure copies, and help to forward the good work which its publication is intended to promote.]
[When we add that the work referred to is an edition ofThe History of Little Downey, that the prints in it are executed by a lady, and printed at home by the photographic process, and that a limited number of copies may be had on application to Messrs.Constable and Co. of Edinburgh, the sale being for the benefit of the Glasgow Ragged School, we have no doubt many of our readers will be glad to secure copies, and help to forward the good work which its publication is intended to promote.]
Footnote 5:(return)This method was suggested to me by Professor Maconochie, who indeed prepared the glass on which the mice were etched.
This method was suggested to me by Professor Maconochie, who indeed prepared the glass on which the mice were etched.
Collodion Negatives.—Allow me to communicate a sure and simple way of darkening collodion positives for printing. It was shown to me by a friend of mine; and not having seen it in your "N. & Q.," I have undertaken to lay it before your readers, hoping that it may be found useful to many beginners.
After having developed your picture, as a positive, with protosulphate of iron and nitric acid, wash it well from the developing fluid, and keep it on one end that all the water may drop from the plate. Then take three parts of a concentrated solution of gallic acid, and one part of a nitrate of silver solution, 60 grains to the ounce of water; mix together, and pour on the plate. The picture will gradually begin to blacken; and after half an hour or more, you will obtain a sufficient density for printing a positive on paper.
Every one who will take the trouble to try it will be sure to succeed. Of all the ways to blackening a picture for printing I have tried, not excepting Professor Maconochie's method with chloride of gold and muriate of ammonia, the surest I find is the one which I have laid before you. Just try it, and you will be glad with the result.
F. M. (a Maltese.)
Malta, Valetta.
"London Labour and the London Poor" (Vol. viii., p. 527.).—I beg to informMr. Gantillonthat the above work is discontinued. The parts entitled "Those that will work" and "Those that cannot work" have been completed, and form a valuable book; but the discontinuance of the third part is no loss at all, for in commencing upon "Those that will not work," Mr. Mayhew began with a history of prostitution in ancient and modern times, a subject which did not possess the novelty or originality of his other divisions, and consequently his readers fell off so fast that he was forced first to raise the price of, and afterwards to discontinue altogether, the publication. Probably, if he had confined himself to treating the London prostitutes as he did the costermongers, the work would have been completed, and would then have formed a complete encyclopædia of London Labour and the London Poor.
Arthur C. Wilson.
Brompton.
Felicia Hemans's inedited Lyric(Vol. viii., p. 407.).—Your correspondentMr. Weld Taylorseems to possess the first rude draught of the following beautiful piece by Felicia Hemans, entitled, "The Elfin Call," a duet sung by Miss A. Williams and Miss M. Williams, Miss Messent and Miss Dolby, Mrs. A. Newton and Miss Lanza, Miss Cubitt and Miss Porter, Mrs. Aveling Smith and Miss Sara Flower, Miss Emma Lucombe and Miss Eliza Birch, Miss Turner and Miss E. Turner. The music by Stephen Glover:
"Come away, Elves! while the dew is sweet,Come to the dingles where fairies meet;Know that the lilies have spread their bellsO'er all the pools in our forest dells;Come away, under arching bows we'll float,Making each urn a fairy boat;We'll row them with reeds o'er the fountains free,And a tall flag-leaf shall our streamer be.And we'll send out wild music so sweet and low,It shall seem from the bright flower's heart to flow;As if 'twere a breeze with a flute's low sigh,Or water-drops train'd into melody,And a star from the depth of each pearly cup,A golden star into heav'n looks up,As if seeking its kindred where bright they lie,Set in the blue of the summer sky."
"Come away, Elves! while the dew is sweet,Come to the dingles where fairies meet;Know that the lilies have spread their bellsO'er all the pools in our forest dells;Come away, under arching bows we'll float,Making each urn a fairy boat;We'll row them with reeds o'er the fountains free,And a tall flag-leaf shall our streamer be.And we'll send out wild music so sweet and low,It shall seem from the bright flower's heart to flow;As if 'twere a breeze with a flute's low sigh,Or water-drops train'd into melody,And a star from the depth of each pearly cup,A golden star into heav'n looks up,As if seeking its kindred where bright they lie,Set in the blue of the summer sky."
"Come away, Elves! while the dew is sweet,
Come to the dingles where fairies meet;
Know that the lilies have spread their bells
O'er all the pools in our forest dells;
Come away, under arching bows we'll float,
Making each urn a fairy boat;
We'll row them with reeds o'er the fountains free,
And a tall flag-leaf shall our streamer be.
And we'll send out wild music so sweet and low,
It shall seem from the bright flower's heart to flow;
As if 'twere a breeze with a flute's low sigh,
Or water-drops train'd into melody,
And a star from the depth of each pearly cup,
A golden star into heav'n looks up,
As if seeking its kindred where bright they lie,
Set in the blue of the summer sky."
J. Yeowell.
Sir Arthur Aston(Vol. viii., pp. 126. 302.).—Though unable to informCharthamandA Readerin what part of the co. of Berks the above cavalier resided during the interval of time named by the former, I think I can state the connexion, by marriage only, between the Tattersall and Aston families: I believe it will be found that they were not "nearly related."
Thomas Howard, fourth duke of Norfolk, by his first wife, Mary Fitzalan, had Philip (jure matris), Earl of Arundel, who died 1595 attainted, and was succeeded by Thomas, created Earl of Norfolk. This last was father of Henry Frederick and grandfather of Charles Howard, of Greystock Castle, who married Mary, eldest daughter and coheiress of George Tattersall, of West Court, Finchampstead, and Stapleford, co. Wilts.
Charles Howard, as above, was the fourth brother of Henry, sixth Duke of Norfolk, which last was grandfather (through Thomas, his son, of Worksop) of Mary Howard, who married Walter Aston, fourth Baron Aston, of Forfar, in Scotland.
H. C. C.
I furnished a memoir of this famous soldier to theGentleman's Magazinein 1833 or 1834.
G. Steinman Steinman.
Grammar in relation to Logic(Vol. viii., p. 514).—Mr. Inglebyevidently has but a superficial view of this doctrine, which is not only Dr. Latham's, but one, I apprehend, pretty well known to every Oxford undergraduate, viz. that, logically,conjunctions connect propositions, not words. By way of proving the falsity of it (which he says is demonstrable), he bids Dr. Latham "resolve this sentence:All men are either two-legged, one-legged, or no-legged:" and adds, "It cannot be done." I may inform him that the three categorical propositions, "A man is two-legged, or he isone-legged, or he is no-legged," connected by their several copulas, are equivalent to and co-extensive with the disjunctive proposition which he instances.
Mr. Inglebyquotes Boole'sMathematical (?) Analysis of Logicin support of his opinion; but, from the following specimen of that work, it does not appear to be much of an authority. The author says:
"The proposition, Every animal is either rational or irrational, cannot be resolved into, Either every animal is rational or every animal is irrational. The former belongs to pure categoricals, the latter to hypotheticals."
"The proposition, Every animal is either rational or irrational, cannot be resolved into, Either every animal is rational or every animal is irrational. The former belongs to pure categoricals, the latter to hypotheticals."
Now the first sentence of this passage is an absurd truism; but the proposition in question can be resolved into—An animal is rational or it is irrational. Again, "the former doesnotbelong to pure categoricals," it is simply disjunctive.Mr. Inglebyfalls into the same error, and moreover seems not to be aware that a disjunctive proposition is at the same time hypothetical.
Logically speaking, a conjunction implies two propositions; and, strictly, connects propositions only. To say that conjunctions connect words, may be true in a certain sense; but it is a very superficial and loose mode of stating the matter.
H. C. K.
——Rectory, Hereford.
Descendants of Milton(Vol. viii., p. 339.).—I have in the course of my life met with or heard of more than once or twice, people of the same names, and those very uncommon ones, who were in no way related to each other; nevertheless, I venture to tell your correspondent J. F. M. that about twenty years ago there was living the skipper of a coasting vessel, trading between Bridport and London, named Caleb Clark. He or his family are probably living at Bridport now.
Αλφα.
Pronunciation of Bible Names(Vol. viii., p. 469.).—The clerk of a retired parish in North-west Devon, who had to read the first lesson always, used to make a hash of Shadrac, Meshac, and Abednego; and as the names are twelve times repeated in the third chapter of Daniel, after getting through them the first time, he called them "the aforesaid gentlemen" afterwards.
W. Collyns.
Harlow.
Henry I.'s Tomb(Vol. viii., p. 411.).—I fancy that the much mooted question, as to the existence of a monumental tomb over the remains of King Henry I. in Reading Abbey, may at once be set at rest by referring to Tanner'sNotitia Monastica, edit. 1744, in the second column of p. 15.: where it is evident that a tomb and an effigy of King Henry I. had once existed; that they had both fallen into decay; and that, in the time of King Richard II., the Abbot of Reading was required to repair both the tomb and the effigy of King Henry the founder, who was there buried, within the space of one year, as the condition on which the charters were to be confirmed:
"Cart. 5 & 6 Ric. II. n. 24.; Pat. 8 Ric. II. p. 1. m. 18. Pat. 16 Ric. II. p. 1. m. 38.; Pat. 21 Ric. II. p. 3. m. 16. Confirm. Libertatum, modo Abbas infra unum Annum honeste repararet Tumbam et ImaginemR. HenriciFundatoris, ibidem humati."
I. T. A.
Bells at Berwick-upon-Tweed(Vol. viii., p. 292.):Chandler, Bishop of Durham(Vol. viii, p. 331.).—I may perhaps "kill two birds with one stone," by remindingMessrs. GattyandNewburnthat the Bishops of Durham were formerlyPrinces of the Palatinate. It was probably in that capacity that Bishop Chandler delivered a charge to the Grand Jury, and Bishop Barington licensed a meeting-house bell. This latter prelate was, I believe, the last who exercised the functions of that high office.
Wm. Hazel.
Return of Gentry, temp. Henry VI.(Vol. viii., p. 469.).—The return of 12th Henry VI. is printed in Fuller'sWorthies, under each county.
G. Steinman Steinman.
I read in Fuller'sWorthies, edit. Nuttall, vol. i. p. 60.:
"A later list might be presented of the English gentry towards the end of the reign of King Henry VIII."
"A later list might be presented of the English gentry towards the end of the reign of King Henry VIII."
Does this list exist in any of our record offices?
And has it ever been printed?
Tewars.
Peter Allan(Vol. viii., p. 539.).—Your correspondent E. C. will find much interesting information respecting this person in an account of him reprinted from theSunderland and Durham County Herald, and published (1848) by Vint and Carr, Sunderland, under the title ofMarsden Rock, or the Story of Peter Allan, and Marsden Marine Grotto. He, his wife, eight children, and aged father and mother, are there described as being in a very flourishing condition: and (if I remember rightly) I saw them all, when I last visited the rock in 1850.
Cuthbert Bede, B.A.
Burial in an Erect Posture(Vol. viii., p. 5.).—The following passage, which I quote from Hearne'sCollection of Antiquarian Discourses, vol. i. p. 212., may perhaps prove acceptable toCheverells, as showing (on traditional authority) that this mode of burial was anciently adopted in the case of captains in the army:
"For them above the grounde buryed, I have by tradition heard, that when anye notable captayne dyed in battel or campe, the souldyers used to take his bodye, and to sette him on his feetuprighte, and put hislaunce or pike into his hand; and then his fellowe souldyers did by travell everye man bringe so muche earthe, and laye aboute him as should cover him, and mount up to cover the top of his pike."
"For them above the grounde buryed, I have by tradition heard, that when anye notable captayne dyed in battel or campe, the souldyers used to take his bodye, and to sette him on his feetuprighte, and put hislaunce or pike into his hand; and then his fellowe souldyers did by travell everye man bringe so muche earthe, and laye aboute him as should cover him, and mount up to cover the top of his pike."
I have a very curious print in my possession, illustrating the manners and customs of the Laplanders; and, amongst the rest, their modes of burial. In one case several bodies are represented standing in an upright posture, perfectly nude, with railings all round except in the front; and another, one body is represented in a similar condition, inclosed in a kind of sentry-box.
R. W. Elliott.
Clifton.
The Word "Mob"(Vol. viii., pp. 386. 524. 573.).—Roger North, speaking of the King's Head, or Green Ribbon Club, which was "a more visible administration, mediate, as it were, between his lordship (Shaftsbury) and the greater and lesser vulgar, who were to be the immediate tools," says:
"I may note that the rabble first changed their title, and were calledthe mob, in the assemblies of this club. It was their beast of burthen, and called firstmobile vulgus, but fell naturally into the contraction of one syllable, and ever since is become proper English."—Examen, partIII.ch. vii. p. 89.
"I may note that the rabble first changed their title, and were calledthe mob, in the assemblies of this club. It was their beast of burthen, and called firstmobile vulgus, but fell naturally into the contraction of one syllable, and ever since is become proper English."—Examen, partIII.ch. vii. p. 89.
H. Gardiner.
Gen. Sir C. Napier(Vol. viii., p. 490.).—I may state, for the instruction of officers who think study needless in their profession, that, having enjoyed the intimate friendship of Sir C. Napier for some time before he had the command in the midland district of England, I constantly found him engaged in inquiries connected with his profession. He was always in training. Not long before this time he had returned from Caen, in Normandy, and he told me that when there he had surveyed the ground on which William the Conqueror had acquired military fame before he made his descent on England, and his conclusion was that that Conqueror was remarkably well instructed for his time in the art of war. He expressed his intention to write on this subject; but great events soon afterwards called him to India, which became the scene of his own mastery in military and civil command.
T. F.
To Come(Vol. viii., p. 468.).—In the Lower Saxon dialect, to come iscamen, and the imperfect, as in Gothic,quam. It would therefore seem that the Englishcameis not an innovation, but a partial restoration or preservation of a very ancient form. (See Adelung'sWörterbuch.)
E. C. H.
Passage in Sophocles(Vol. viii., pp. 73. 478.).—The Italics were introduced to draw attention to thenewversion which was adventured, "N. & Q." being an excellent medium for such suggestions.
Sophocles having referred to "an illustrious saying of some one," and the old scholiast having furnished this saying,
"Ὅταν δ' ὁ δαίμων ἀνδρὶ πορσύνῃ κακὰΤὸν νοῦν ἔβλαψε πρῶτον ᾧ βουλεύεται,"
"Ὅταν δ' ὁ δαίμων ἀνδρὶ πορσύνῃ κακὰΤὸν νοῦν ἔβλαψε πρῶτον ᾧ βουλεύεται,"
"Ὅταν δ' ὁ δαίμων ἀνδρὶ πορσύνῃ κακὰ
Τὸν νοῦν ἔβλαψε πρῶτον ᾧ βουλεύεται,"
it merely became necessary to compare the form which Sophocles adopted to suit his metre with the words of this "illustrious saying," whence it appeared that—
ᾧ βουλεύεται = πράσσει δ' ὀλιγοστὸν χρόνον ἐκτὸς ἄτας;
ᾧ βουλεύεται = πράσσει δ' ὀλιγοστὸν χρόνον ἐκτὸς ἄτας;
ᾧ βουλεύεται = πράσσει δ' ὀλιγοστὸν χρόνον ἐκτὸς ἄτας;
and therefore I could not agree with the common version "and that he lives for a brief space apart from its visitation;" erroneous, as I submit, from the adoption of Brunck's readingπράσσειν, instead of reading, as I venture to do, with Hermann,θεὸς ἄγει ... πράσσει δ', takingθεὸςas the nominative of both verbs.
Neither the Oxford translation, Edwards's, nor Buckley's, rendersὀλιγοστον"verybrief," agreeably to the admonition of the old scholiast to the contrary. The word "practise" objected to is, I submit, derived fromπράσσω, to act, throughπράγμα, business, andπρᾶξις, practice, and is therefore the most appropriate English word, although the word "does" will furnish Sophocles' meaning nearly as well. I shall, however, be most happy to submit to correction by any classical scholar.
T. J. Buckton.
Lichfield.
Party-Similes of the Seventeenth Century(Vol. viii., p. 485.).—I must beg of you to contradict the loose statement ofJarltzbergat p. 486. of this Volume, "as to the object of the Church of England inseparating fromRome." Now, the Church of England did neverseparate herselffromanyChristian Church; the doctrine and discipline of the Church of England is to be found in her Book of Common Prayer. Popes Paul IV. and Pius IV. offered to confirm this book, if Queen Elizabeth would acknowledge the Pope's supremacy; and Roman Catholics in these realms habitually conformed to the worship of the Church of England for the firsttwelve yearsof Queen Elizabeth's reign, after which time they were prevented from doing so by the bull of Pius V. (dated Feb. 23, 1569), which excommunicated that sovereign.
So Romanists are the separatists, and not Anglicans.
Thomas Collis.
Judges styled Reverend(Vol. viii., pp. 158. 276. 351.).—Sir Anthony Fitzherbert was certainly not chief justice, yet inA Letter to a Convocation ManI find him so styled:
"I must admit that it is said in the second part of Rolle'sAbridgment, that the Archbishop of Canterburywas prohibited to hold such assemblies by Fitzherbert, Chief Justice, because he had not the King's licence; but he adds that the archbishop would not obey it, and he quotes Speed for it. I shall not consult that lame historian for a law-point, and it seems strange that Rolle should cite him."—L. C. M., p. 38.
"I must admit that it is said in the second part of Rolle'sAbridgment, that the Archbishop of Canterburywas prohibited to hold such assemblies by Fitzherbert, Chief Justice, because he had not the King's licence; but he adds that the archbishop would not obey it, and he quotes Speed for it. I shall not consult that lame historian for a law-point, and it seems strange that Rolle should cite him."—L. C. M., p. 38.
I have not lately had an opportunity of looking into either Rolle'sAbridgment of Cases, or Speed'sHistory of Great Britain, but I am not able to discover to what event in any of Henry VIII.'s convocations allusion is here made. I am therefore led to think that Fitzherbert must be a misprint, and that we should read in the above passage "Fitz-Peter," and that the following is the circumstance, in King John's reign, which is referred to by the author of theLetter:
"This year (1200), Hubert, Archbishop of Canterbury, held a National Synod at Westminster, notwithstanding the prohibition of Geoffrey Fitz-Peter, Earl of Essex, and Chief Justiciary of England."—Collier'sEcclesiastical History, vol. i. folio, p. 410.
"This year (1200), Hubert, Archbishop of Canterbury, held a National Synod at Westminster, notwithstanding the prohibition of Geoffrey Fitz-Peter, Earl of Essex, and Chief Justiciary of England."—Collier'sEcclesiastical History, vol. i. folio, p. 410.
I shall be glad if any of your readers can throw farther light on the passage.
W. Fraser.
Tor-Mohun.
Veneration for the Oak(Vol. viii., p. 468.).—Since my Query upon this matter appeared, I find that Mr. Layard, in his work uponNineveh and Babylon, at p. 160., describes a cylinder of green felspar, which he believes to have been the signet of Sennacherib, and upon which is engraved a rare mode of portraying the supreme deity, and a sacred tree, whose flowers are in this instance in the shape of anacorn. Whence did the Assyrians derive this veneration for a tree bearing acorns? Did they derive this notion, as they did their tin, from Celtic Britain? I believe they did.
G. W.
Stansted, Montfichet.
Rapping no Novelty(Vol. viii., p. 512.).—De Foe, in his veraciousHistory of Mr. Duncan Campbell(2nd ed., p. 107.), quotes a story of sprit-knocking from "the renowned and famous" Mr. Baxter'sHistory of Apparitions, prefacing it thus:
"What in nature can be more trivial than for a spirit to employ himself in knocking on a morning at the wainscot by the bed's head of a man who got drunk over night, according to the way that such things are ordinarily explained? And yet I shall give you such a relation of this, that not even the most devout and precise Presbyterian will offer to call in question."
"What in nature can be more trivial than for a spirit to employ himself in knocking on a morning at the wainscot by the bed's head of a man who got drunk over night, according to the way that such things are ordinarily explained? And yet I shall give you such a relation of this, that not even the most devout and precise Presbyterian will offer to call in question."
According to De Foe, Mr. Baxter gave full credit to the story, adding many pious reflections upon the subject, and expressing himself "posed to think what kind of spirit this is."
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