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Title: The SymposiumAuthor: XenophonTranslator: Henry Graham DakynsRelease date: January 1, 1998 [eBook #1181]Most recently updated: October 29, 2024Language: EnglishCredits: Produced by John Bickers, and David Widger
Title: The Symposium
Author: XenophonTranslator: Henry Graham Dakyns
Author: Xenophon
Translator: Henry Graham Dakyns
Release date: January 1, 1998 [eBook #1181]Most recently updated: October 29, 2024
Language: English
Credits: Produced by John Bickers, and David Widger
*** START OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK THE SYMPOSIUM ***
Xenophon the Athenian was born 431 B.C. He was apupil of Socrates. He marched with the Spartans,and was exiled from Athens. Sparta gave him landand property in Scillus, where he lived for manyyears before having to move once more, to settlein Corinth. He died in 354 B.C.The Symposium records the discussion of Socratesand company at a dinner given by Callias for theyouth Autolycus. Dakyns believed that Plato knewof this work, and that it influenced him to somedegree when he wrote his own "Symposium."
PREPARER'S NOTEThis was typed from Dakyns' series, "The Works of Xenophon," afour-volume set. The complete list of Xenophon's works (thoughthere is doubt about some of these) is:Work Number of booksThe Anabasis 7The Hellenica 7The Cyropaedia 8The Memorabilia 4The Symposium 1The Economist 1On Horsemanship 1The Sportsman 1The Cavalry General 1The Apology 1On Revenues 1The Hiero 1The Agesilaus 1The Polity of the Athenians and the Lacedaemonians 2Text in brackets "{}" is my transliteration of Greek text intoEnglish using an Oxford English Dictionary alphabet table. Thediacritical marks have been lost.
I
For myself, (1) I hold to the opinion that not alone are the serious transactions of "good and noble men" (2) most memorable, but that words and deeds distinctive of their lighter moods may claim some record. (3) In proof of which contention, I will here describe a set of incidents within the scope of my experience. (4)
(1) See Aristid. ii. foll.(2) Or, "nature's noblemen."(3) Cf. Plut. "Ages." 29 (Clough, iv. 35): "And indeed if, as Xenophonsays, in conversation good men, even in their sports and at theirwine, let fall many sayings that are worth preserving." See Grote,"Plato," ii. 228 foll. as to the sportive character of the work.(4) Or, "let me describe a scene which I was witness of." See Hug."Plat. Symp." p. xv. foll.
The occasion was a horse-race (5) at the great Panathenaic festival. (6) Callias, (7) the son of Hipponicus, being a friend and lover of the boy Autolycus, (8) had brought the lad, himself the winner of the pankration, (9) to see the spectacle.
(5) See "Hipparch," ii. 1.(6) "Held towards the end of July (Hecatombaeon) every year, and withgreater pomp every four years (the third of each Olympiad)."—Gow,84, 129, n.(7) Callias. Cobet, "Pros. X." p. 67 foll.; Boeckh, "P. E. A." p. 481.(8) See Cobet, op. cit. p. 54; Plut. "Lysand." 15 (Clough, iii. 120);Grote, "H. G." ix. 261.(9) 420 B.C., al. 421. The date is fixed by the "Autolycus" ofEupolis. See Athen. v. 216. For the pankration, which comprisedwrestling and boxing, see Aristot. "Rhet." i. S. 14.
As soon as the horse race was over, (10) Callias proceeded to escort Autolycus and his father, Lycon, to his house in the Piraeus, being attended also by Niceratus. (11) But catching sight of Socrates along with certain others (Critobulus, (12) Hermogenes, Antisthenes, and Charmides), he bade an attendant conduct the party with Autolycus, whilst he himself approached the group, exclaiming:
(10) See A. Martin, op. cit. p. 265.(11) Niceratus. See Cobet, op. cit. 71; Boeckh, "P. E. A." 480; Plat."Lach." 200 C; "Hell." II. iii. 39; Lys. xviii.; Diod. xiv. 5.(12) Critobulus, Hermogenes, Antisthenes, Charmides. See "Mem."
A happy chance brings me across your path, just when I am about to entertain Autolycus and his father at a feast. The splendour of the entertainment shall be much enhanced, I need not tell you, if my hall (13) should happily be graced by worthies like yourselves, who have attained to purity of soul, (14) rather than by generals and cavalry commanders (15) and a crowd of place-hunters. (16)
(13) Or, "dining-room." See Becker, "Charicles," 265.(14) See Grote, "H. G." viii. 619 foll. Cf. Plat. "Rep." 527 D;"Soph." 230 E.(15) Lit. Strategoi, Hipparchs.(16) Or, "petitioners for offices of state." Reading {spoudarkhiais}.
Whereat Socrates: When will you have done with your gibes, Callias? Why, because you have yourself spent sums of money on Protagoras, (17) and Gorgias, and Prodicus, and a host of others, to learn wisdom, must you pour contempt on us poor fellows, who are but self-taught tinkers (18) in philosophy compared with you?
(17) As to Protagoras of Abdera, Gorgias of Leontini, Prodicus ofCeos, see Plat. "Prot." 314 C, "Rep." x. 600 C, "Apol." 19 E;"Anab." II. vi. 17; "Mem." II. i. 21; "Encyc. Brit." "Sophists,"H. Jackson.(18) Or, "hand-to-mouth cultivators of philosophy," "roturiers." Cf.Plat. "Rep." 565 A: "A third class who work for themselves"; Thuc.i. 141: "The Peloponnesians cultivate their own soil, and theyhave no wealth either public or private." Cf. "Econ." v. 4.
Hitherto, no doubt (retorted Callias), although I had plenty of wise things to say, I have kept my wisdom to myself; but if only you will honour me with your company to-day, I promise to present myself in quite another light; you will see I am a person of no mean consideration after all. (19)
(19) Or, "I will prove to you that I am worthy of infinite respect."
Socrates and the others, while thanking Callias politely for the invitation, were not disposed at first to join the dinner party; but the annoyance of the other so to be put off was so obvious that in the end the party were persuaded to accompany their host.
After an interval devoted to gymnastic exercise (and subsequent anointing of the limbs) by some, whilst others of them took a bath, the guests were severally presented to the master of the house.
Autolycus was seated next his father, as was natural, (20) while the rest reclined on couches. Noting the scene presented, the first idea to strike the mind of any one must certainly have been that beauty has by nature something regal in it; and the more so, if it chance to be combined (as now in the person of Autolycus) with modesty and self-respect. Even as when a splendid object blazes forth at night, the eyes of men are riveted, (21) so now the beauty of Autolycus drew on him the gaze of all; nor was there one of those onlookers but was stirred to his soul's depth by him who sat there. (22) Some fell into unwonted silence, while the gestures of the rest were equally significant.
(20) Al. "Autolycus found a seat beside his father, while the restreclined on couches in the usual fashion." See Schneider's note.(21) Passage imitated by Max. Tyr. "Or." xxiv. 4.(22) Cf. Plat. "Charm." 154.
It seems the look betokening divine possession, no matter who the god, must ever be remarkable. Only, whilst the subject of each commoner emotion passion-whirled may be distinguished by flashings of the eye, by terror-striking tones of voice, and by the vehement fervour of the man's whole being, so he who is inspired by temperate and harmonious love (23) will wear a look of kindlier welcome in his eyes; the words he utters fall from his lips with softer intonation; and every gesture of his bodily frame conform to what is truly frank and liberal. Such, at any rate, the strange effects now wrought on Callias by love. He was like one transformed, the cynosure of all initiated in the mysteries of this divinity. (24)
(23) Cf. Plat. "Rep." iii. 403 A: "Whereas true love is a love ofbeauty and order, temperate and harmonious."(24) Cf. "Econ." xxi. 12.
So they supped in silence, the whole company, as if an injunction had been laid upon them by some superior power. But presently there came a knocking on the door! Philippus the jester bade the doorkeeper (25) announce him, with apologies for seeking a night's lodging: (26) he had come, he said, provided with all necessaries for dining, at a friend's expense: his attendant was much galled with carrying, nothing but an empty bread-basket. (27) To this announcement Callias, appealing to his guests, replied: "It would never do to begrudge the shelter of one's roof: (28) let him come in." And as he spoke, he glanced across to where Autolycus was seated, as if to say: "I wonder how you take the jest."
(25) Lit. "him who answers the knock," "the concierge" or hall-porter.Cf. Theophr. "Char." xiv. 7; Aristot. "Oec." i. 6.(26) Lit. "and why he wished to put up."(27) Lit. "and being breakfastless"; cf. Theocr. i. 51. The jester'shumour resembles Pistol's ("Merry Wives," i. 3. 23) "O baseHungarian wight!"(28) Or, "How say you, my friends, it would hardly do, methinks, toshut the door upon him." See Becker, "Charicles," p. 92.
Meanwhile the jester, standing at the door of the apartment where the feast was spread, addressed the company:
I believe you know, sirs, that being a jester by profession, it is my business to make jokes. I am all the readier, therefore, to present myself, feeling convinced it is a better joke to come to dinner thus unbidden than by solemn invitation.
Be seated, (29) then (replied the host). The company are fully fed on serious thoughts, you see, if somewhat starved of food for laughter.
(29) Lit. "Pray, find a couch then."
The feast proceeded; and, if only to discharge the duty laid upon him at a dinner-party, Philippus must try at once to perpetrate a jest. Failing to stir a smile, poor fellow, he made no secret of his perturbation. Presently he tried again; and for the second time the joke fell flat. Whereat he paused abruptly in the middle of the course, and muffling up his face, fell prostrate on the couch.
Then Callias: What ails you, sirrah? Have you the cramp? the toothache? what?
To which the other heaving a deep groan: Yes, Callias, an atrocious ache; since laughter has died out among mankind, my whole estate is bankrupt. (30) In old days I would be asked to dinner to amuse the company with jests. (31) Now all is changed, and who will be at pains to ask me out to dinner any more? I might as well pretend to be immortal as to be serious. Nor will any one invite me in hopes of reclining at my board in his turn. Everyone knows so serious a thing as dinner in my house was never heard of; it's against the rules—the more's the pity.
(30) Cf. "Cyrop." VI. i. 3; Plat. "Laws," 677 C.(31) Lit. "by the laughter which I stirred in them."
And as he spoke he blew his nose and snuffled, uttering the while so truly dolorous a moan (32) that everybody fell to soothing him. "They would all laugh again another day," they said, and so implored him to have done and eat his dinner; till Critobulus could not stand his lamentation longer, but broke into a peal of laughter. The welcome sound sufficed. The sufferer unveiled his face, and thus addressed his inner self: (33) "Be of good cheer, my soul, there are many battles (34) yet in store for us," and so he fell to discussing the viands once again.
(32) Philippus would seem to have anticipated Mr. Woodward; seePrologue to "She Stoops to Conquer":
Pray, would you know the reason I'm crying? The Comic Muse long sick is now a-dying! And if she goes...
(33) Cf. "Cyrop." I. iv. 13; Eur. "Med." 1056, 1242; Aristoph. "Ach."357, 480.(34) Or add, "ere we have expended our last shot." Philippus puns onthe double sense of {sumbolai}. Cf. Aristoph. "Ach." 1210, whereLamachus groans {talas ego xumboles bareias}, and Dicaeopolisreplies {tois Khousi gar tis xumbolas epratteto}.
Lam. 'Twas at the final charge; I'd paid beforeA number of the rogues; at least a score.
Dic. It was a most expensive charge you bore:Poor Lamachus! he was forced to pay the score.
H. Frere.
II
Now the tables were removed, and in due order they had poured out the libation, and had sung the hymn. (1) To promote the revelry, there entered now a Syracusan, with a trio of assistants: the first, a flute-girl, perfect in her art; and next, a dancing-girl, skilled to perform all kinds of wonders; lastly, in the bloom of beauty, a boy, who played the harp and danced with infinite grace. This Syracusan went about exhibiting his troupe, whose wonderful performance was a source of income to him.
(1) See Plat. "Symp." 176 A; Athen. ix. 408.
After the girl had played to them upon the flute, and then the boy in turn upon the harp, and both performers, as it would appear, had set the hearts of every one rejoicing, Socrates turned to Callias:
A feast, upon my word, O princeliest entertainer! (2) Was it not enough to set before your guests a faultless dinner, but you must feast our eyes and ears on sights and sounds the most delicious?
(2) Lit. "in consummate style."
To which the host: And that reminds me, a supply of unguents might not be amiss; (3) what say you? Shall we feast on perfumes also? (4)
(3) Lit. "suppose I tell the servant to bring in some perfumes, sothat we may further feast on fragrance..." Cf. Theophr. "Char."vii. 6 (Jebb ad loc.)(4) See Athen. xv. 686.
No, I protest (the other answered). Scents resemble clothes. One dress is beautiful on man and one on woman; and so with fragrance: what becomes the woman, ill becomes the man. Did ever man anoint himself with oil of myrrh to please his fellow? Women, and especially young women (like our two friends' brides, Niceratus' and Critobulus'), need no perfume, being but compounds themselves of fragrance. (5) No, sweeter than any perfume else to women is good olive-oil, suggestive of the training-school: (6) sweet if present, and when absent longed for. And why? Distinctions vanish with the use of perfumes. The freeman and the slave have forthwith both alike one odour. But the scents derived from toils—those toils which every free man loves (7)—need customary habit first, and time's distillery, if they are to be sweet with freedom's breath, at last. (8)
(5) Cf. Solomon's Song, iv. 10: "How fair is thy love, my sister, myspouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell ofthine ointments than all spices!"(6) Lit. "the gymnasium."(7) Cf. Aristoph. "Clouds," 1002 foll. See J. A. Symonds, "The GreekPoets," 1st s., p. 281.(8) See "Mem." III. x. 5; "Cyrop." VIII. i. 43.
Here Lycon interposed: That may be well enough for youths, but what shall we do whose gymnastic days are over? What fragrance is left for us?
Soc. Why, that of true nobility, of course.
Lyc. And whence shall a man obtain this chrism?
Soc. Not from those that sell perfumes and unguents, in good sooth.
Lyc. But whence, then?
Soc. Theognis has told us:
From the good thou shalt learn good things, but if with the evilThou holdest converse, thou shalt lose the wit that is in thee. (9)(9) Theog. 35 foll. See "Mem." I. ii. 20; Plat. "Men." 95 D.
Lyc. (turning to his son). Do you hear that, my son?
That he does (Socrates answered for the boy), and he puts the precept into practice also; to judge, at any rate, from his behaviour. When he had set his heart on carrying off the palm of victory in the pankration, he took you into his counsel; (10) and will again take counsel to discover the fittest friend to aid him in his high endeavour, (11) and with this friend associate.
(10) It looks as if something had been lost intimating that Autolycuswould have need of some one to instruct him in spiritual things.For attempts to fill up the lacuna see Schenkl.(11) Or, "these high pursuits."
Thereupon several of the company exclaimed at once. "Where will he find a teacher to instruct him in that wisdom?" one inquired. "Why, it is not to be taught!" exclaimed another; to which a third rejoined: "Why should it not be learnt as well as other things?" (12)
(12) Cf. for the question {ei arete didakton}, "Mem." I. ii. 19; IV.i; "Cyrop." III. i. 17; III. iii. 53.
Then Socrates: The question would seem at any rate to be debatable. Suppose we defer it till another time, and for the present not interrupt the programme of proceedings. I see, the dancing-girl is standing ready; they are handing her some hoops.
And at the instant her fellow with the flute commenced a tune to keep her company, whilst some one posted at her side kept handing her the hoops till she had twelve in all. With these in her hands she fell to dancing, and the while she danced she flung the hoops into the air—overhead she sent them twirling—judging the height they must be thrown to catch them, as they fell, in perfect time. (13)
(13) "In time with the music and the measure of the dance."
Then Socrates: The girl's performance is one proof among a host of others, sirs, that woman's nature is nowise inferior to man's. All she wants is strength and judgment; (14) and that should be an encouragement to those of you who have wives, to teach them whatever you would have them know as your associates. (15)
(14) Reading, as vulg. {gnomes de kai iskhuos deitai}; al. continuing{ouden} from the first half of the sentence, transl. "she has nolack of either judgment or physical strength." Lange conj. {romes}for {gnomes}, "all she needs is force and strength of body." SeeNewman, op. cit. i. 419.(15) Lit. "so that, if any of you has a wife, he may well take heartand teach her whatever he would wish her to know in dealing withher." Cf. "N. A." i. 17.
Antisthenes rejoined: If that is your conclusion, Socrates, why do you not tutor your own wife, Xanthippe, (16) instead of letting her (17) remain, of all the wives that are, indeed that ever will be, I imagine, the most shrewish?
(16) See Cobet, "Pros. Xen." p. 56; "Mem." II. ii. 1; Aul. Gell. "N.A." i. 17.(17) Lit. "dealing with her," "finding in her"; {khro} correspondingto {khresthai} in Socrates' remarks.
Well now, I will tell you (he answered). I follow the example of the rider who wishes to become an expert horseman: "None of your soft-mouthed, docile animals for me," he says; "the horse for me to own must show some spirit": (18) in the belief, no doubt, if he can manage such an animal, it will be easy enough to deal with every other horse besides. And that is just my case. I wish to deal with human beings, to associate with man in general; hence my choice of wife. (19) I know full well, if I can tolerate her spirit, I can with ease attach myself to every human being else.
(18) Lit. "Because I see the man who aims at skill in horsemanshipdoes not care to own a soft-mouthed, docile animal, but somerestive, fiery creature."(19) Lit. "being anxious to have intercourse with all mankind, to dealwith every sort of human being, I possess my wife."
A well-aimed argument, not wide of the mark by any means! (20) the company were thinking.
(20) Cf. Plat. "Theaet." 179 C.
Hereupon a large hoop studded with a bristling row of upright swords (21) was introduced; and into the centre of this ring of knives and out of it again the girl threw somersaults backwards, forwards, several times, till the spectators were in terror of some accident; but with the utmost coolness and without mishap the girl completed her performance.
(21) See Becker, "Char." p. 101. Cf. Plat. "Symp." 190; "Euthyd." 294.
Here Socrates, appealing to Antisthenes: None of the present company, I take it, who have watched this spectacle will ever again deny that courage can be taught, (22) when the girl there, woman should she be, rushes so boldly into the midst of swords.
(22) Cf. "Mem." III. ix. 1.
He, thus challenged, answered: No; and what our friend, the Syracusan here, should do is to exhibit his dancing-girl to the state. (23) Let him tell the authorities he is prepared, for a consideration, to give the whole Athenian people courage to face the hostile lances at close quarters.
(23) Or, "to the city," i.e. of Athens.
Whereat the jester: An excellent idea, upon my word; and when it happens, may I be there to see that mighty orator (24) Peisander learning to throw somersaults (25) into swords; since incapacity to look a row of lances in the face at present makes him shy of military service. (26)
(24) Or, "tribune of the people." Cf. Plat. "Gorg." 520 B; "Laws," 908D.(25) Or, "learning to go head over heels into swords."(26) For Peisander see Cobet, "Pros. Xen." p. 46 foll. A thoroughgoingoligarch (Thuc. viii. 90), he was the occasion of much mirth tothe comic writers (so Grote, "H. G." viii. 12). See re his "wantof spirit" Aristoph. "Birds," 1556:
{entha kai Peisandros elthe deomenos psukhen idein, e zont ekeinon proulipe, k.t.l.}
where the poet has a fling at Socrates also:
Socrates beside the brink, Summons from the murky sink Many a disembodied ghost; And Peisander reached the coast To raise the spirit that he lost; With conviction strange and new, A gawky camel which he slew, Like Ulysses.—Whereupon, etc.
H. Frere
Cf. "Peace," 395; "Lysistr." 490.
At this stage of the proceedings the boy danced.
The dance being over, Socrates exclaimed: Pray, did you notice how the beauty of the child, so lovely in repose, became enhanced with every movement of his supple body?
To which Charmides replied: How like a flatterer you are! one would think you had set yourself to puff the dancing-master. (27)
(27) See "The Critic," I. ii.
To be sure (he answered solemnly); and there's another point I could not help observing: how while he danced no portion of his body remained idle; neck and legs and hands together, one and all were exercised. (28) That is how a man should dance, who wants to keep his body light and healthy. (29) (Then turning to the Syracusan, he added): I cannot say how much obliged I should be to you, O man of Syracuse, for lessons in deportment. Pray teach me my steps. (30)
(28) Cf. "Pol. Lac." v. 9.(29) Cf. Aristot. "H. A." vi. 21. 4.(30) "Gestures," "postures," "figures." See Eur. "Cycl." 221;Aristoph. "Peace," 323; Isocr. "Antid." 183.
And what use will you make of them? (the other asked).
God bless me! I shall dance, of course (he answered).
The remark was greeted with a peal of merriment.
Then Socrates, with a most serious expression of countenance: (31) You are pleased to laugh at me. Pray, do you find it so ridiculous my wishing to improve my health by exercise? or to enjoy my victuals better? to sleep better? or is it the sort of exercise I set my heart on? Not like those runners of the long race, (32) to have my legs grow muscular and my shoulders leaner in proportion; nor like a boxer, thickening chest and shoulders at expense of legs; but by distribution of the toil throughout my limbs (33) I seek to give an even balance to my body. Or are you laughing to think that I shall not in future have to seek a partner in the training school, (34) whereby it will not be necessary for an old man like myself to strip in public? (35) All I shall need will be a seven-sofa'd chamber, (36) where I can warm to work, (37) just like the lad here who has found this room quite ample for the purpose. And in winter I shall do gymnastics (38) under cover, or when the weather is broiling under shade.... But what is it you keep on laughing at—the wish on my part to reduce to moderate size a paunch a trifle too rotund? Is that the source of merriment? (39) Perhaps you are not aware, my friends, that Charmides—yes! he there—caught me only the other morning in the act of dancing?
(31) "Bearing a weighty and serious brow."(32) "Like your runner of the mile race." Cf. Plat. "Prot." 335 E.(33) Or, "resolute exercise of the whole body." See Aristot. "Pol."viii. 4. 9; "Rhet." i. 5. 14.(34) Or, "be dependent on a fellow-gymnast." "Pol. Lac." ix. 5; Plat."Soph." 218 B; "Laws," 830 B; "Symp." 217 B, C.(35) Or, "to strip in public when my hair turns gray." Socrates was(421 B.C.) about 50, but is pictured, I think, as an oldish man.(36) See Aristot. "H. A." ix. 45. 1; "Econ." viii. 13.(37) Passage referred to by Diog. Laert. ii. 5. 15; Lucian, "de Salt."25; Plut. "Praec. San." 496.(38) "Take my exercise."(39) Zeune cf. Max. Tyr. "Diss." vii. 9; xxxix. 5.
Yes, that I will swear to (the other answered), and at first I stood aghast, I feared me you had parted with your senses; but when I heard your explanation, pretty much what you have just now told us, I went home and—I will not say, began to dance myself (it is an accomplishment I have not been taught as yet), but I fell to sparring, (40) an art of which I have a very pretty knowledge.
(40) "Sparring," etc., an art which Quintil. "Inst. Or." i. 11, 17,attributes to Socrates. Cf. Herod. vi. 129 concerningHippocleides; and Rich, "Dict. of Antiq." s.v. "Chironomia."
That's true, upon my life! (exclaimed the jester). One needs but look at you to see there's not a dram of difference between legs and shoulders. (41) I'll be bound, if both were weighed in the scales apart, like "tops and bottoms," the clerks of the market (42) would let you off scot-free.
(41) Lit. "your legs are equal in weight with your shoulders." Cf."Od." xviii. 373, {elikes... isophoroi boes}, "of equal age andforce to bear the yoke."—Butcher and Lang.(42) See Boeckh, "Public Economy of Athens," p. 48; Aristoph."Acharn." 723; Lys. 165, 34.
Then Callias: O Socrates, do please invite me when you begin your dancing lessons. I will be your vis-a-vis, (43) and take lessons with you.
(43) Cf. "Anab." V. iv. 12.
Come on (the jester shouted), give us a tune upon the pipe, and let me show you how to dance.
So saying up he got, and mimicked the dances of the boy and girl in burlesque fashion, and inasmuch as the spectators had been pleased to think the natural beauty of the boy enhanced by every gesture of his body in the dance, so the jester must give a counter-representation, (44) in which each twist and movement of his body was a comical exaggeration of nature.
(44) Reading {antepedeizen}. Cf. Plat. "Theaet." 162 B; "Ages." i. 12;if vulg. {antapedeizen}, transl. "would prove per contra eachbend," etc. Cf. Aristot. "Rhet." ii. 26. 3.
And since the girl had bent herself backwards and backwards, till she was nearly doubled into the form of a hoop, so he must try to imitate a hoop by stooping forwards and ducking down his head.
And as finally, the boy had won a round of plaudits for the manner in which he kept each muscle of the body in full exercise whilst dancing, so now the jester, bidding the flute-girl quicken the time (presto! presto! prestissimo!), fell to capering madly, tossing legs and arms and head together, until he was fairly tired out, and threw himself dead beat upon the sofa, gasping:
There, that's a proof that my jigs too are splendid exercise; at any rate, I am dying of thirst; let the attendant kindly fill me the mighty goblet. (45)
(45) Cf. Plat. "Symp." 223 C.
Quite right (said Callias), and we will pledge you. Our throats are parched with laughing at you.
At this point Socrates: Nay, gentlemen, if drinking is the order of the day, I heartily approve. Wine it is in very truth that moistens the soul of man, (46) that lulls at once all cares to sleep, even as mandragora (47) drugs our human senses, and at the same time kindles light-hearted thoughts, (48) as oil a flame. Yet it fares with the banquets of men, (49) if I mistake not, precisely as with plants that spring and shoot on earth. When God gives these vegetable growths too full a draught of rain, they cannot lift their heads nor feel the light air breathe through them; but if they drink in only the glad supply they need, they stand erect, they shoot apace, and reach maturity of fruitage. So we, too, if we drench our throats with over-copious draughts, (50) ere long may find our legs begin to reel and our thoughts begin to falter; (51) we shall scarce be able to draw breath, much less to speak a word in season. But if (to borrow language from the mint of Gorgias (52)), if only the attendants will bedew us with a frequent mizzle (53) of small glasses, we shall not be violently driven on by wine to drunkenness, but with sweet seduction reach the goal of sportive levity.
(46) Cf. Plat. "Laws," 649; Aristoph. "Knights," 96:
Come, quick now, bring me a lusty stoup of wine, To moisten my understanding and inspire me (H. Frere).
(47) Cf. Plat. "Rep." vi. 488 C; Dem. "Phil." iv. 133. 1; Lucian v.,"Tim." 2; lxxiii., "Dem. Enc." 36. See "Othello," iii. 3. 330:
Not poppy, nor mandragora, Nor all the drowsy syrups of the world;
"Antony and Cl." i. 5, 4.(48) Cf. 1 Esdras iii. 20: "It turneth also every thought into jollityand mirth," {eis euokhian kai euphrosunen}. The whole passage isquoted by Athen. 504. Stob. "Fl." lvi. 17.(49) Reading {sumposia}, cf. Theog. 298, 496; or if after Athen.{somata} transl. "persons."(50) Or, "if we swallow at a gulp the liquor." Cf. Plat. "Sym." 176 D.(51) See "Cyrop." I. iii. 10, VIII. viii. 10; Aristoph. "Wasps," 1324;"Pol. Lac." v. 7.(52) For phrases filed by Gorgias, see Aristot. "Rhet." iii. 3;"faults of taste in the use of metaphors," Longin. "de Subl." 3.See also Plat. "Symp." 198 C.(53) Cf. Aristoph. "Peace," 1141; Theophr. "Lap." 13; Lucian, xvii.,"De merc. cond." 27; Cic. "Cat. m." 14, transl. "pocula...minuta atque rorantia."
The proposition was unanimously carried, with a rider appended by Philippus: The cup-bearers should imitate good charioteers, and push the cups round, quickening the pace each circuit. (54)
(54) Or, "at something faster than a hand-gallop each round." See thedrinking song in "Antony and Cl." i. 7. 120.
III
During this interval, whilst the cup-bearers carried out their duties, the boy played on the lyre tuned to accompany the flute, and sang. (1)
(1) Cf. Plat. "Laws," 812 C; Aristot. "Poet." i. 4.
The performance won the plaudits of the company, and drew from Charmides a speech as follows: Sirs, what Socrates was claiming in behalf of wine applies in my opinion no less aptly to the present composition. So rare a blending of boyish and of girlish beauty, and of voice with instrument, is potent to lull sorrow to sleep, and to kindle Aphrodite's flame.
Then Socrates, reverting in a manner to the charge: The young people have fully proved their power to give us pleasure. Yet, charming as they are, we still regard ourselves, no doubt, as much their betters. What a shame to think that we should here be met together, and yet make no effort ourselves to heighten the festivity! (2)
(2) See Plat. "Prot." 347 D; "A company like this of ours, and mensuch as we profess to be, do not require the help of another'svoice," etc.—Jowett. Cf. id. "Symp." 176: "To-day let us haveconversation instead; and if you will allow me, I will tell youwhat sort of conversation."
Several of the company exclaimed at once: Be our director then yourself. Explain what style of talk we should engage in to achieve that object. (3)
(3) {exegou}. "Prescribe the form of words we must lay hold of toachieve the object, and we will set to work, arch-casuist."
Nothing (he replied) would please me better than to demand of Callias a prompt performance of his promise. He told us, you recollect, if we would dine with him, he would give us an exhibition of his wisdom.
To which challenge Callias: That I will readily, but you on your side, one and all, must propound some virtue of which you claim to have the knowledge.
Socrates replied: At any rate, not one of us will have the least objection to declaring what particular thing he claims to know as best worth having.
Agreed (proceeded Callias); and for my part I proclaim at once what I am proudest of. My firm belief is, I have got the gift to make my fellow-mortals better.
Make men better! (cried Antisthenes); and pray how? by teaching them some base mechanic art? or teaching them nobility of soul? (4)
(4) Or, "beauty and nobility of soul" ({kalokagathia}). See "Mem." I.vi. 14.
The latter (he replied), if justice (5) be synonymous with that high type of virtue.
(5) i.e. "social uprightness."
Of course it is (rejoined Antisthenes) the most indisputable specimen. Since, look you, courage and wisdom may at times be found calamitous to friends or country, (6) but justice has no single point in common with injustice, right and wrong cannot commingle. (7)
(6) See "Mem." IV. ii. 33.(7) i.e. "the one excludes the other."
Well then (proceeded Callias), as soon (8) as every one has stated his peculiar merit, (9) I will make no bones of letting you into my secret. You shall learn the art by which I consummate my noble end. (10) So now, Niceratus, suppose you tell us on what knowledge you most pride yourself.
(8) Reading {emon}. Al. {umon}, "when you others."(9) Lit. "what he has for which to claim utility."(10) Or, "give the work completeness." Cf. Plat. "Charm." 173 A;"Gorg." 454 A.
He answered: My father, (11) in his pains to make me a good man, compelled me to learn the whole of Homer's poems, and it so happens that even now I can repeat the "Iliad" and the "Odyssey" by heart. (12)
(11) Nicias.(12) Of, "off-hand." See "Mem." III. vi. 9; Plat. "Theaet." 142 D.
You have not forgotten (interposed Antisthenes), perhaps, that besides yourself there is not a rhapsodist who does not know these epics?
Forgotten! is it likely (he replied), considering I had to listen to them almost daily?
Ant. And did you ever come across a sillier tribe of people than these same rhapsodists? (13)
(13) Cf. "Mem." IV. ii. 10.
Nic. Not I, indeed. Don't ask me to defend their wits.
It is plain (suggested Socrates), they do not know the underlying meaning. (14) But you, Niceratus, have paid large sums of money to Anaximander, and Stesimbrotus, and many others, (15) so that no single point in all that costly lore is lost upon you. (16) But what (he added, turning to Critobulus) do you most pride yourself upon?
(14) i.e. "they haven't the key (of knowledge) to the allegorical orspiritual meaning of the sacred text." Cf. Plat. "Crat." 407;"Ion," 534; "Rep." 378, 387; "Theaet." 180; "Prot." 316. SeeGrote, "H. G." i. 564.(15) See Aristot. "Rhet." iii. 11, 13. "Or we may describe Niceratus(not improbably our friend) as a 'Philoctetes stung by Pratys,'using the simile of Thrasymachus when he saw Niceratus after hisdefeat by Pratys in the rhapsody with his hair still dishevelledand his face unwashed."—Welldon. As to Stesimbrotus, see Plat."Ion," 530: "Ion. Very true, Socrates; interpretation hascertainly been the most laborious part of my art; and I believemyself able to speak about Homer better than any man; and thatneither Metrodorus of Lampsacus, nor Stesimbrotus of Thasos, norGlaucon, nor any one else who ever was, had as good ideas aboutHomer, or as many of them, as I have."—Jowett. Anaximander,probably of Lampsacus, the author of a {'Erologia}; see Cobet,"Pros. Xen." p. 8.(16) Or, "you will not have forgotten one point of all that preciousteaching." Like Sir John Falstaff's page (2 "Henry IV." ii. 2.100), Niceratus, no doubt, has got many "a crown's worth of goodinterpretations."
On beauty (answered Critobulus).
What (Socrates rejoined), shall you be able to maintain that by your beauty you can make us better?
Crit. That will I, or prove myself a shabby sort of person.
Soc. Well, and what is it you pride yourself upon, Antisthenes?
On wealth (he answered).
Whereupon Hermogenes inquired: Had he then a large amount of money? (17)