Mr.Specter. Did Mr. Olsen have an accident at about that time?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes; while I was up there.
Mr.Specter. What happened to him exactly?
Mrs.Olsen. He totaled his car; hit a telephone pole.
Mr.Specter. When you say “totaled,” you mean a total wreck?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes.
Mr.Specter. What injuries, if any, did he sustain?
Mrs.Olsen. I think he broke two bones in his leg and he separated his shoulder and he had multiple chest injuries, black eye.
Mr.Specter. Was he hospitalized?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes.
Mr.Specter. Where?
Mrs.Olsen. Methodist Hospital.
Mr.Specter. Why did you later go to California?
Mrs.Olsen. Why did we come out here?
Mr.Specter. Yes.
Mrs.Olsen. Well, we had no desire to stay in Dallas. He used up all his sick time on the police department, and, well, we wanted to come out here a year—well, last August we were going to come out here and we didn’t have enough money, and then he got his settlement from the car and I saved a little money and so we just came out here. We always wanted to come out to California.
Mr.Specter. Going back to the Friday of the assassination and the following Saturday and the following Sunday when Oswald was shot, during that time did you see or talk to Little Lynn?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. During that time did you see or talk to Tammi True?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. During that time did you see or talk to Bruce Carlin?
Mrs.Olsen. Who?
Mr.Specter. Bruce Carlin.
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know who that is.
Mr.Specter. Do you know a Bruce Carlin?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. During that time did you see or talk to Tom O’Grady?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know him.
Mr.Specter. During that time did you see or talk to Blackie Harrison?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know him either.
Mr.Specter. During that same time did you see or talk to Ralph Paul?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes; I called him on the—oh, now, wait. You are saying from the Friday to the Sunday?
Mr.Specter. Yes.
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. When did you talk to Ralph Paul?
Mrs.Olsen. I guess it was Monday when they reopened the club. I think that was the day they reopened it, I’m not sure.
Mr.Specter. Did you see Ralph Paul in person or did you talk to him on the telephone?
Mrs.Olsen. I talked to him on the telephone and I told him I wasn’t coming back to work, and he said, “Well, it’s up to you.” He was very cool.
Mr.Specter. What connection, if any, did he have with the Carousel Club?
Mrs.Olsen. I think he is the owner.
Mr.Specter. The coowner with Ruby?
Mrs.Olsen. I thought Jack Ruby was just like managing it, you know, a front; that Ralph had all the money in the place.
Mr.Specter. What else was in that conversation between you and Ralph Paul, if anything?
Mrs.Olsen. That was it.
Mr.Specter. Did Ralph Paul tell you that Ruby told him Saturday night he was going to shoot Oswald?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Are you sure?
Mrs.Olsen. I’m sure.
Mr.Specter. Did Paul tell you anything about what Ruby told him?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. During the time from that Friday, November 22, until the following Sunday on November 24, did you see or talk to George Senator?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. During that time did you see or talk to Eva Grant?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Or Breck Wall?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Or Mickey Ryan?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know him—oh, yes; I do; but I didn’t see him.
Mr.Specter. During that same time did you see or talk to Tom Howard?
Mrs.Olsen. No. Now, this is the Friday to the Sunday, right?
Mr.Specter. Yes.
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Lieutenant Butler, did you see or talk to Lieutenant Butler during that time?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know him.
Mr.Specter. Do you know Detective L. D. Miller?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Did you make any other telephone calls during that time from November 22 to November 24?
Mrs.Olsen. Other than girl friends?
Mr.Specter. Other than the ones you have already told me about.
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Did you receive any telephone calls from the day of the assassination until the following Sunday, other than those you have already told me about?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Did you ever see or hear of Oswald before November 22?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Do you know Bertha Cheek?
Mrs.Olsen. Is this who they call Aunt Bertha, the one that works at the Colony Club?
Mr.Specter. I am not able to say.
Mrs.Olsen. Well, that’s the only Bertha I know. I have worked with her.
Mr.Specter. Did you ever know of any Bertha Cheek who operated an apartment house?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Do you know Eugene Smith?
Mrs.Olsen. No.
Mr.Specter. Do you know whether Jack Ruby was ever a member of any subversive organization which advocated the forceful overthrow of the U.S. Government?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know.
Mr.Specter. Do you know whether any of his family of friends was ever a member of such an organization?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know that either.
Mr.Specter. Do you know anything about Ruby’s trip to Cuba?
Mrs.Olsen. No, sir.
Mr.Specter. Do you know anything about Mr. Ruby’s attitude towards the John Birch Society?
Mrs.Olsen. No, sir.
Mr.Specter. Do you know anything about Mr. Ruby’s attitude towards the Minutemen?
Mrs.Olsen. I don’t know what that means.
Mr.Specter. Do you have anything to add which you think might be helpful in any way to the President’s Commission?
Mrs.Olsen. No. I wish I could help you, but that’s about all I can remember, just as an employee and that’s about it.
Mr.Specter. Before the oath was administered to you, that is, before I swore you in, did you and I have a very brief conversation about the subject matter that I would ask you about during this deposition?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes.
Mr.Specter. And did you answer the questions for me at that time in the same way that you have on the record here this afternoon?
Mrs.Olsen. Yes.
Mr.Specter. Mrs. Olsen, we permit the witnesses to read the depositions and to sign them if they wish to do so, and during the course of the deposition with Mr. Olsen, it was concluded that he would read and sign his deposition, so this transcript, which is the typing up of the questions and answers, will be made available to you to read and sign.
Mrs.Olsen. Okay.
Mr.Specter. And that concludes the deposition and we thank you very much for coming here today.
Mrs.Olsen. All right.